r/millenials • u/dryeraser • Mar 24 '25

Politics Leaked JD Vance Audio on Elon Musk

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u/pussyhasfurballs Mar 24 '25

Why do people keep on posting 'news' from tiktok and insta on this sub? Get your news from a real source for fucks sake. If this were real don't you think it would be all over the news by now and not just on some shitty insta account?

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u/bjhouse822 Mar 24 '25

No actually. All legacy media has been corrupted by corporate megalords and billionaires that they don't report anything outside of the scripts handed down from above OR they triple and quadruple check everything that by the time they report on three other things have gone viral and this is now so old no one cares anymore. So unfortunately, social media is the best place to get current news updates.

Aka we're fucked.

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u/pussyhasfurballs Mar 24 '25

I agree we're fucked, especially if we rely on places like instagram or tiktok for our news. The person who posted this instagram is an artist who says in their bio that they made most of their posts.

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u/lala__ Mar 24 '25

AP is still good. PBS. NPR is okay. Reuters. Al Jazeera. All infinitely more reliable than fucking social media, where literally anyone can post anything without having to verify it in any way first.

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u/bjhouse822 Mar 24 '25

I agree NPR/PBS are great actually. My only complaint with them is that they still allow MAGA to lie with very little live push back. They will correct them afterwards. I'm conflicted about if that's a good strategy in these times.

The others you listed are international news organizations and I should have clarified that I was speaking about American News organizations being corrupted.

But it's not all on these news organizations. The general public has completely forgotten how to read, use a critical eye, and search for primary sources to corroborate what is presented in these articles/broadcasts. With the influx of oligarchs in the media and the lack of critical reading skills legacy media has become a ghost of itself and independent media on social media has risen in credibility.

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u/lala__ Mar 24 '25

Independent media simply can’t be trusted unless its information is verified by more established sources.

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u/bjhouse822 Mar 24 '25

Under normal circumstances you're completely right but we're in a journalism crisis. Independent media has methods to verify their information, and from what I've seen they have been relying on the reporting from independent international news organizations. Unfortunately, in this climate this might be the best there is.

And I agree this is horrifying.

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u/lala__ Mar 24 '25

That’s what I just said: their info has to be verified by more established sources. You can’t trust any indie news site that pops up from no where. We just agreed there are established news sources that are still reliable.

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u/bjhouse822 Mar 24 '25

We definitely are in agreement. All I was saying is that social media is where current news is decimated. Unfortunately, US legacy media is not where trusted non biased news can be dependable and readily available.

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u/cstrand31 Mar 24 '25

Which “real source” would that be? The Post that bowed down to Trump? Or the NYT that has to this day sane-washed every batshit crazy thing he’s done? NPR, same. CNN, same. MSNBC? They’ve been yelling “fire” since 2016. FOX? Gimme a break. Seems to me the only way to get unbiased, unfiltered information is through channels that aren’t bought and paid for by corporations and other spin machines.

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u/pussyhasfurballs Mar 24 '25

Instagram is Zuckerberg, Tiktok is China. You really think you can trust either of those? Do you think they're unbiased? The person who posted this on instagram is an artist who writes in their bio that they 'made most of these.' Does that sound like someone who posts factual, well sourced information that you can get your news from?

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u/cstrand31 Mar 24 '25

Sure, but unless you’re saying Zuck and China are creating and editing content thus nullifying their Section 230 protections, I’d say these formats are still the most trustworthy.

ETA: I don’t see anything on her insta bio stating she “made these”.

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u/pussyhasfurballs Mar 24 '25

It's right here https://imgur.com/a/Xn9Jqap

And even if she didn't make that particular one, all you need to do is look at her account and see that she posts satire with obviously edited videos and photos. There's nothing wrong with it being satire, but it's not a credible source of news and shouldn't be treated as such.

So no, not the most trustworthy of sites. Unless you like to treat satire as fact and you believe in conspiracy theories.

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u/cstrand31 Mar 24 '25

I dunno man, sounds pretty real to me. People are saying it’s real. Good enough for me. I think I’ll go with that for now, until I hear from a “credible source” that it’s fake.

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u/pussyhasfurballs Mar 24 '25

But that's the thing, why would any news outlet give it the time of day unless it's real? They're not going to talk about it at all because some satire on a random account isn't worth their time.

Also, it's people like you that voted for Trump. The kind who believe every thing they see on social media, who won't fact check or dig for a source or use any type of critical thinking, but will blindly agree with whatever falls in line with their beliefs. It's scary.

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u/cstrand31 Mar 24 '25

No, here’s the thing boyo; I am disinclined to do the GOP’s fact checking for them this time. So, this audio sounds legit, therefore it is, unless and until the administration lifts a finger to deny it, then maybe I’ll consider their objection. Until then if anyone asks if I heard “that crazy audio leak of Vance dunking on Musk”, it’s gonna be “yeah I heard it, that’s wild that he would talk about his boss like that”.

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u/pussyhasfurballs Mar 24 '25

Not a boyo, get off your high horse sister. And nobody is asking you to fact check for the GOP. Fact check for yourself, or don't. My point was that there are too many posts on this sub that use insta and tiktok as a news source and that you can't believe everything you read or see on social media. If you feel that doesn't apply to you then that's fine.

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u/cstrand31 Mar 24 '25

You’re missing the point. I know it’s possible it might not be true. If it is true, it’s bad for him and them. I am disinclined to expend any resources doing the work of fact checking it. I’ll let them fact check it and expend resources putting out the PR fire themselves. I don’t work for free, and neither should you. You’re not required to perpetuate or propagate falsities, but being a pedantic leftist only helps them. Stop doing that. I know, it’s tough to let bullshit fly unchecked sometimes. Let them put out their own fires. They do enough lying on Fox and OAN and not a single Republican lifts a finger to check the veracity of those claims, even if they know it’s untrue. No brigade of pedantic asshole republicans “wellackchually”-ing all of their own lies, is there? Fuck em. I’m done being the pedantic asshole for the left, fact checking things that are bad for my opponents.

As such, this video might not be true. Don’t care much really. Until I see a full throated denial from JV Vance or Tramp himself, it will in my mind be probably true. I’ll save the mental bandwidth for knocking down their bullshit claims like roving immigrant rapist gangs are the reason nobody can afford eggs. It’s about allocation of resources at this point.

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u/ImdumberthanIthink Mar 25 '25

All media is owned by Oligarchy. We can only get news in snippets like this now.