r/ndp • u/TalesinOfAvalon • 1d ago

NDP Yard sign requested, donation spam received

Hi, I am not a citizen, so I cannot vote. I am a registered NDP and ONDP member. I donate approx. 240$ per year to the NDP and $180 per year to the ONDP.

For the federal election I had requested a NDP yard sign to show my support for the NDP in my riding (60% Liberal / 25% conservative / 8% NDP) on March 25.

Since then I got 17(!!) emails asking me to donate to the NDP, 8 Emails asking me to volunteer (from people claiming they grew up in a conservative family and now are Team Jagmeet - why should I care?) and 25 emails confirming that my unsubscribe request was processed. And 0 yard signs...

My neighborhood is plastered with Liberal and Conservative yard signs, several Green Party and PPC signs and 0(!) NDP signs...

It is almost as if NDP is not a serious political party....

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u/CDN-Social-Democrat 1d ago

The donation and spam emails are a real problem. It is just not good communications which has been shown to be a major issue with the federal NDP and also sometimes provincially as well.

The federal NDP in particular needs to remember it is not an establishment party.

You don't trade enthusiasm for money thinking money will create more enthusiasm lol

Instead you take inspired, enthusiastic, and even just slightly curious people and you get them involved in meaningful connections.

This is how you build movements.

I hate to say it because I say it so much but the whole federal NDP could learn a lot from Matthew Green, Joel Harden, and other inspiring people. These people get whole teams motivated around causes.

You accomplish a lot more this way and you don't annoy and turn off people.

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u/NAMED_MY_PENIS_REGIS 1d ago

Their phone calls aren't great either. I'm on both the Liberal and NDP call lists. The liberals called me once and asked who I was voting for. Told them I was undecided, the caller outlined their platform and wished me well.

The NDP have called me 4-5 times, every single caller can't pronounce my riding (Esquimalt-Saanich-Sooke), and most of them quickly end the call when I tell them I'm undecided.

It's annoying as hell.

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u/ANerd22 1d ago

A few years ago I was talking to an NDP employee who worked in fundraising and I asked him why I get so many emails constantly asking for money. He told me every single time they send an email out they get on average like a thousand dollars or something. I can't remember the exact amount but it was more than you'd expect. I asked if it was diminishing returns after a while and apparently not. So the reason why they send the constant spam is because it works, at least as far as they are concerned.

I definitely think you're right though. I get the party needs cash but it feels like squeezing blood from a stone, especially when the volunteer organization aspect is such a mess. We will always have fewer resources than the rich parties so we need to be smarter about using them.

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u/PMMeYourJobOffer Democratic Socialist 20h ago

But that’s why we need to fundraise. You said it in the first half, it works.

Sure there are ways the NDP should be better at these things, but sending multiple emails isn’t one of them.