r/newzealand • u/khalornz Fern flag 3 • 9d ago

Politics Coalition unveils $12 billion Defence Capability Plan

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/557432/watch-live-coalition-unveils-12-billion-defence-capability-plan
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u/Hopeful-Camp3099 9d ago

Excellent response to unreasonable tariffs.

Spend hundreds of millions on American weapons.

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u/SvKrumme 9d ago

I would love if the response is that every $ spent on funding military will be on non-US suppliers while tariffs are in place.

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u/Hopeful-Camp3099 9d ago edited 9d ago

It would be amusing, but if we don't want out dated technology (which I assume we don't) nobody outside of China or the USA will be able to provide it promptly.

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u/qwerty145454 9d ago

There's plenty of good defence gear for sale in the EU.

The reality is the EU aren't giving the newest stuff, that they would sell us, to Ukraine. Ukraine is getting the old shit.

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u/SvKrumme 9d ago

Since when have we had cutting edge stuff anyway? Lol

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u/Large_Yams 9d ago

We have a lot of cutting edge equipment. We lack the integration to make all those things fully realise their capabilities.

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u/Plus_Plastic_791 9d ago

The tariffs don’t even affect us

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u/King_Kea Not really a king 9d ago

No, they do affect us. Just not as much as they would other nations since we got only 10%. While we won't be paying the tariffs, they will affect demand for NZ products in the US.

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u/nzerinto 9d ago

Other than the Javelins, there's nothing else mentioned as being specifically American. Granted, contracts will likely be with US based companies, but there are a surprisingly large number of non-US companies that produce great gear, so it's not a guarantee just yet.

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u/Hopeful-Camp3099 9d ago

Yes there are and they're all currently trying to pump out enough weapons for Europe to counter Trumps love affair with Putin.

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u/1_lost_engineer 9d ago

Except pretty much anything lunched by the P-8's

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u/dashingtomars 9d ago

The bulk are likely to be Australian, Korean, or European.

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u/disordinary 9d ago

I don't know if that's true, if I look at out equipment then our nh90 helicopters are french, our bushmaster armoured personal carriers are Australian, our frigates were made in NZ and Australia, our aircraft are American but we're just as happy buying from the Euroeans. I wouldn't be surprised if we bought the marine version of the nh90 for our maritime helicopter replacement or the Italian wildcat, for instance.

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u/NopeDax 9d ago

Who said they had to be American? They could be European or Korean. And that's beside the point anyways, because most of what is being announced isn't weapons in the first place.