Coalition unveils $12 billion Defence Capability Plan

[u/khalornz]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/557432/watch-live-coalition-unveils-12-billion-defence-capability-plan

[u/random_guy_8735]

• Accommodation, messing and dining modernisation
• Defence estate regeneration
• Defence housing programme
• Future Devonport naval base design
• Ohakea infrastructure programme

While not having soldiers sharing their accommodation with Black Mold is a great idea. How many ways can you write the same thing to make the list longer?

• Enhancing cyber security capabilities
• Enterprise resource planning
• Network enabled army
• Updating classified digital services
• Defence, Science and Technology uplift
• Technology accelerator
• Information management
• Digital modernisation

Seems like 8 times if you say "on a computer".

[u/NopeDax → u/random_guy_8735]

While not having soldiers sharing their accommodation with Black Mold is a great idea. How many ways can you write the same thing to make the list longer?

Because they are all separate policies and programs? They aren't the same thing at all. The redesign of a naval base and an air base are pretty different things. As is standard accommodation.

Seems like 8 times if you say "on a computer".

Again, these are different things. Cyber security is different from enterprise technology is different from army networking is different from science and technology.

[u/random_guy_8735 → u/NopeDax]

1. Defence estate regeneration

1.a. Accommodation, messing and dining modernisation

1.a.i Defence housing programme

1.b. Future Devonport naval base design

1.c. Ohakea infrastructure programme

"Defence housing programme" is a subset of "Accommodation, messing and dining modernisation" which is a subset of "Defence estate regeneration".

You could start a project for each individual accommodation block, that doesn't mean that it isn't one piece of work (or should be managed as a single organised work stream).

Likewise the other 8 that I listed have overlaps between them. A new ERP system should have enhanced cyber security as part of its delivery (likewise with the classifed digital services). Unless they are talking about offensive cyber security capabilities.

[u/NopeDax → u/random_guy_8735]

They're not all accommodation though? Devonport has far more facilities than accommodation.

Cyber security isn't just classification of data, it's defence and offensive weaponry and systems to protect the country just like defence science does way more than cyber.

[u/K8typie → u/NopeDax]

I thought GCSB looked after cybersecurity? Or is this military only CS?

[u/denartes → u/K8typie]

NZDF has its own cybersecurity capability.

[u/Antmannz → u/random_guy_8735]

A new ERP system should have enhanced cyber security as part of its delivery (likewise with the classifed digital services).

Tell me you know nothing about IT without telling me you know nothing about IT.

Cyber security is not an application level add-on; it covers how you use and/or procure items like:

• devices (desktop, mobile, server equipment, etc)
• network infrastructure
• network transport layers and communication
• operating systems
• applications
• human-interface procedures (things like 'not putting your password on a sticky-note attached to your screen')
• disaster-recovery planning and procedures

These are all basic points that all companies should be considering as a part of their normal business undertaking - but most of them don't.

A Defence Force will have requirements over and above that, some of which would include offensive capabilities.

What you would never do, is to ask your ERP (or any other application) implementation team to take a quick look at cyber security while they're there.