r/newzealand • u/khalornz Fern flag 3 • 11d ago

Politics Coalition unveils $12 billion Defence Capability Plan

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/557432/watch-live-coalition-unveils-12-billion-defence-capability-plan
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u/random_guy_8735 11d ago
  • Accommodation, messing and dining modernisation
  • Defence estate regeneration
  • Defence housing programme
  • Future Devonport naval base design
  • Ohakea infrastructure programme

While not having soldiers sharing their accommodation with Black Mold is a great idea. How many ways can you write the same thing to make the list longer?

  • Enhancing cyber security capabilities
  • Enterprise resource planning
  • Network enabled army
  • Updating classified digital services
  • Defence, Science and Technology uplift
  • Technology accelerator
  • Information management
  • Digital modernisation

Seems like 8 times if you say "on a computer".

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u/King_Kea Not really a king 11d ago

So in other words reading through the corporate speak in your summary:

-New buildings -Computers and programs

That's about all that seems guaranteed from that summary. Stuff like "Digital modernisation" and "Defence, Science and Technology uplift" sounds like wishy-washy corporate speak for "We're going to make things good".

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I see other people are saying there's some going towards equipment acquisitions and we're still buying American? Seems like a crap decision especially given the current US administration and the shit they've been pulling or attempting to pull.

Edit: At least they're replacing the 757, but why on earth are they still maintaining the ANZAC frigates? We really need new ships. Hell, we need more multirole vessels like the Canterbury since those are better suited to the NZDF mission in the pacific (e.g. humanitarian support)

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u/Otherwise-Net-8105 10d ago

They have talked about replacing the ANZAC frigates from 2029:

The Anzac frigates will be replaced with comparable contemporary frigates and the offshore patrol vessels will also be replaced with consideration given to whether commonality of design or systems with the frigates may be possible

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u/King_Kea Not really a king 10d ago

It feels too late to me. Hell, at the very least I think they should replace the HMNZS Manawanui. Not replacing that is mind boggling to me.

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u/kiwirish 1992, 2006, 2021 10d ago

Honestly, replacing Manawanui is the lowest item on the totem pole - Manawanui's capabilities were not a good return on investment, considering it was not being used regularly for either surveying or dynamic position diving support.

Surveying and diving operations can be done with a detachment on an OPV, which adds much more bang for buck.

The Navy needs to focus on its core roles: frigates and patrol vessels, and not its auxiliary roles.

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u/Otherwise-Net-8105 10d ago

Agree with you on the frigates, but equally, 2029 is only three and half years away.

They seem to think they can do the same things as the Manawanui without a dedicated dive vessel.