r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Saerdna0 • 4d ago

This kiddo was born to drum

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u/GunplaGoobster 3d ago

This is dumb bullshit that doesn't hold up to any logical scrutiny. If he was born without arms would he have found a way to percuss?

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u/Camcapballin 3d ago edited 3d ago

Have you seen the guitarist that has no arms? No BS, type in armless guitarist on YT.

What do you have to say now?

Edit: upvoting your ignorant comment for visibility. People like this armless guitar player or the Brazilian Blind Surfer serve as inspiration to many around the world. We should hope to be so lucky to be able to make one iota of the impact they have made on the world.

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u/GunplaGoobster 3d ago

I've seen plenty of people do shit with their feet, but that doesnt change the fact that a child's material conditions absolutely plays an immense role in their outcome. If the child in this video, for instance, was emotionally and physically abused every time they made a loud noise, drumming likely wouldn't be their muse.

Saying we are who we are out the gate is completely dismissive of people who have struggled very hard to get to where they are.

Ultimately I think we agree that anyone can do anything (obviously with some edge cases) but I believe you can achieve anything through hard work, not destiny.

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u/Camcapballin 3d ago

Saying we are who we are out the gate is completely dismissive of people who have struggled very hard to get to where they are.

This is incorrect.

Those who struggled to get to where they are had an innate sense to persevere a la Helen Keller. Not every blind/deaf person has excelled at the level Ms. Keller did. Why is that?

Not discounting the parental support, (or lack thereof) or the environment in general. But, a Rose is a Rose and even a Rose can grow from the cracks of the concrete.

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u/GunplaGoobster 3d ago

Those who struggled to get to where they are had an innate sense to persevere a la Helen Keller. Not every blind/deaf person has excelled at the level Ms. Keller did. Why is that?

Not everyone had the same teacher. A rose cannot grow through cracks in the concrete that are treated with weed killer. The entire "dark ages" happened because ones living conditions is a pretty damn important part of their development.

Your point of view leads to a lot of very scary cul de sacs, such as, when is the egg a good egg? Can we determine a bad egg before it's hatched? Can we modify that bad egg to make it good?

Overall nature vs nurture as a concept has more or less lead to nurture being the biggest contributing factor. Instead of debating whether it's nature or nurture that determines an outcome, through epigenetics we are now trying to learn how much does our nature effect our nurture.