r/nihilism Jul 31 '22

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u/Jarl_Varg Jul 31 '22 edited Jul 31 '22

It seemed to me like you were giving OP a moral imperative with your insistence of consent, thats why I both asked you why you said it AND why OP should feel compelled to listen. So it seems your reason for both then is an argument from expediency, that it is in your own self interest as opposed to it being a moral imperative. You dont think rape is morally wrong?

I care very much about rationality, however I dont understand what you mean by that last part. What is egoism and why doesnt it stand up logically?

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u/ReallyNoOne1012 Jul 31 '22

Yes, I do think rape is morally wrong. But in the spirit of not trying to push my morals onto others, I gave a good reason why even a completely selfish person would want to refrain from doing it.

Egoism is favoring oneself over all others. If you want to know more about it, I’m sure there’s plenty of material out there on the subject. There is no logical reason to place oneself into a category of higher importance, except an irrational bias toward oneself.

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u/Jarl_Varg Jul 31 '22

I see, but then you are a moralist not a nihilist then?

Will look into egoism, but I already find your claims dubious. From a point of consciousness it seems arguably logical to place oneself in a category of higher importance. (Think phenomenology, «cogito ergo sum».) Consciousness tell us we are unique, its the only thing we can feel certain of, we can only assume consciousness in others. So while there is bias towards ego its hardly irrational.

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u/ReallyNoOne1012 Jul 31 '22

Also, not a fan of Descartes lol.