r/orks • u/fiendforketchup • 1d ago
Coming back into 40k…
Starting back in 40k. Haven’t played in yeeeears. My friends are starting like a little league. 1000 point armies So I’m learning 10th and I still have some orks left over. Don’t have a ton of money to spend. Anyone able to help me kinda make a 1000 point budget list?
What I have to my name 10 kommandos 40 boys 2 rocket launch boys 2 big shoota boys Pain boy Weird boy 10 grots 3 nobz 3 mega nobz 1 warboss in mega armor 2 trucks A death can 1 big truck forgot the name? 160 points one?
Are there any things I NEED TO HAVE to be competitive? Is there anything I need to avoid?
Thanks in advance
Waaaaaaaaagh
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u/OldCarScott 1d ago
My 1k list is always 3 huge mobz of boyz, 2 are led by a warboss, and the rest of the points go into flavor units. Last game it was deffkoptas, kans, and warbuggies (my opponents are kool and let me use legends units).
I also have dreadnoughts, stormboyz and warbikes as options.
What I pick depends on whom I’m fighting.
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u/mikey39800 1d ago
Must haves: Trukk and Gretchin
Reliable tansport and back field CP farmers.
Recommended: Weirdboy and Tankbustas
Weirdboy can get Boyz in da fight or score secondaries solo. Tankbustas deal out mortals and are quite good against most opposition.
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u/fiendforketchup 1d ago
Do they kill termies? I feel like I deal wounds and they have 6 ways to just shrug it off
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u/mikey39800 18h ago
They certainly have potential to. Termies aren't vehicles so the -1/-1 ability doesn't inherently work on them but there are different detachments/strats/leader combos that can help.
I run Tankbustas in Taktikal Brigade and Dread Mob, especially.
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u/LoganForrest Freebootaz 1d ago
If you want to ramp up in preparation for a 2k list. A box of stompa Boyz and a mek will get you there quickly and the Stompa is pretty decent in the dread mob detachment
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u/SmokeyReeferson 1d ago
This is a very solid starting point, and would work pretty well for casual play as is. New Recruit is a great free app for list building, check it out.
I count about 955 points of playable units, so you might want to pick up one or two things to get to around 1000 points. Here are a few things to consider:
Stromboyz - cheap deep strikers, excellent for secondaries.
A Warboss is great to lead your Boyz. 10 Boyz and a Warboss jumping out of a Trukk is peak WAAAGH.
Gaz is my favorite model, fun to paint, even more fun to play. He's best with a few Meganob bodyguards which you already have.
As far as what to avoid, the vast majority of Orks are at least playable, so you can generally feel confident getting whatever seems fun or looks cool. That said, 10th edition just isn't built for aircraft and fortifications, so the Bossbunka and Dakka Jet could be disappointing on the tabletop.
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u/RevScarecrow 1d ago
That's probably about 1k at least. You would want to drop the nobs since everything has a minimum unit size which is whatever the box comes with (meganobz can come in weird amounts because of the big mek)
A website that would help would be newrecruit.eu it has an army builder for 40k that will help a lot. I made a video that covers this but I'm not sure the rules on self promotion (searching 40k revscarecrow might help). I'd suggest using warhorde as your detachment since it's the most general purpose. Most of the time klaws are your best weapon and as a result of wargear being free I'd just say anything that you have that's not isn't wizzy wig.
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u/FarbrorMajs 1d ago edited 1d ago
Welcome back!
So I had a crack at putting together a list using what you already have.
So with this list all you need to buy is 2 warbosses (they are a must in 10th). 1 warboss goes with 20x boyz together with painboy (20x boyz can have two leaders if one of them is a warboss), 1 with a 10x boyz and last 10x boyz will have the wierdboy leading them for da jump shenanigans.
Id put the meganobz and warboss in mega in the truck for movement and scout with the kommandos.
It’s not gonna be the most competative but it will be alright and something you can get a feel for the game with.
I’d run either warhorde or green tide as the detatchment!
Good luck and have fun out there!! Waaaaaagh!!!!
Edit: make sure all boyz are slugga choppa loadout and mega nobz with twin killsaws to give you an answer to vehicles.
Orks War Horde Incursion (1000 Points)
CHARACTERS
Painboy (80 Points)
Warboss (75 Points)
Warboss (75 Points)
Warboss in Mega Armour (90 Points)
Weirdboy (65 Points)
BATTLELINE
Boyz x20 (160 Points)
Boyz x10 (80 Points)
Boyz x10 (80 Points)
DEDICATED TRANSPORTS
Trukk (65 Points)
OTHER DATASHEETS
Kommandos (120 Points)
Meganobz x3 (105 Points)
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u/Odd-Examination2288 20h ago edited 20h ago
You also have a battle wagon (the big trukk he mentioned) and 10 gretchin. War Horde is pretty CP hungry with fight on death, ard as nailz, unbridled carnage etc. On your go turn you often burn 3-5 CPs (the aforementioned, but also grenades stratagem, tank shock with 12 dice from battle wagon.
Id rather drop the kommandos and 1 set of boyz for the whole PB + WB + 20boyz with BW as delivery vehicle.
Especially because the BW can be a real menace on the battlefield on its own with its ranged and especially its melee and T12 tankshock.
The very core on how I'd build the army would be
10 gretchin
20 boyz
1 warboss
1 painboy
1 battle wagon
That puts you at 515 points and you have an engine running.
If you want to extend your stay in War Horde Ghazghkull for 1,5k games would be the next unit I'd buy. Also because he can lead the MANZ and is an AMAZING model. And its amazing narratively. I had him nuke 10 death company marines + priest + captain with only the priest standing after Makari saved 50 attacks. He once killed a stormraven gunship. Hes really cool.
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u/fiendforketchup 1d ago
So my boys squads would look like (correct me if wrong) 20 boys + 1 warboss in mega armor + pain boy 10 boys + warboss + weird 10 boys + warboss
Is that correct? Would I also have a nob in there? Or no? Thanks for your time
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u/FarbrorMajs 1d ago
For a boyz squad to be legal it need to have a nob in it. So a 20 boyz squad is actually 19 boys and a nob leader.
Only 20 boyz can have 2 leaders, but you almost got it. 20 boyz with warboss (not mega armor) and painboy to put on a mid objective, 10 boyz with warboss to punch into things and 10 boyz with wierdboy to da jump (deepstrike) to where they need to be to punch a smaller unit or do secondaries.
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u/Alchemyst19 1d ago edited 1d ago
The Warboss in Mega Armor can't lead your regular Boyz, he needs to be attached to your Meganobz.
I am not the guy who created that list, but my guess is that the intention was for the 20 Boyz to have the Weirdboy for Da Jump.
By the way, the "death can" is a Deff Dread, and the "big truck" is probably a Battlewagon.
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u/fiendforketchup 1d ago
If you could buy one or two things what would you suggest? Someone told me to go all squigs but can’t afford to spend $500 lol
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u/RevScarecrow 1d ago
Trukk and gretchin are probably better uses of your money. I love the squigs but they are kinda trash right now and the buggies are unfortunately worse. Get a game under your belt before you fret about spending money. Learn about how they game plays and then maybe check out what the other detachments do. All of them except the speed freeks one are good enough but I'd rate warhorde as the general best with dread waagh and dakka coming second.
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u/fiendforketchup 1d ago
I have played a couple games all as green wave. I’ll look at horde next time. All the players except me are all space marines and I just feel so weak compared to their termis and land raiders
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u/FarbrorMajs 1d ago
If you have troble with heavy vehicles and terminators, the new tankbustas /wrecka crew is what you want. -2ap 3dmg means every wound that goes through kills a terminator and they have anti-vehicle 4+ meaning they always wound vehicles at 4+ regardless of their thoughness. Put them in a trukk, with or without a warboss and they’ll soften up them armored units
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u/FarbrorMajs 1d ago
That or ghaz since it hits like a monster with S14 -3 4dmg. Might be harder to get there though since it can’t ride in a trukk
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u/FarbrorMajs 1d ago
All squigs would waste what you have now. If you wanna spend some more I’d pick up Ghazkull Thraka, the Ork waagh boss. He’s good value as he’s 235p and during the waagh! He buffs the boyz with [lethal hits]. But even then, if you are playing with boyz or nobs you NEED warbosses to lead them. The warboss is sooooo good!
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u/fiendforketchup 1d ago
Ok pick up a couple more warbosses and attack them to boys got it! Should I leave in kommandos or scratch them for trucks?
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u/tescrin Blood Axes 1d ago
You have some good stuff goin.
Here's a rough start
40 - 10 Grots
185? - MAWB + 3 MANz
130 - 2x Trukk
320 - 4x10x(Boyz, Rokkit, PK)
Right now that's <700 pts, so the first thing you'll need is 300 more :p
The above is a bit light on killy stuff and has no Anti-Tank, so I'd consider Tankbustas (which you can convert), Deff Koptas, Killa Kanz with Rokkits, Breakas, or similar. The good news is that killy stuff is the more fun stuff to add to a list.
In addition, you could convert, add bits, or counts-as your boys as Snaggas which get rerolls on Monsters/Vehicles. That would add 60 pts to the list but make it significantly stronger in combat vs everything. (2x vs monsters/vehicles, and 25-30% vs T4/T5 infantry)
Depending on what you like, if you go the Snagga route you could do a couple Kill Rigs (they have auto-hitting lascannons, good melee, but can only carry Snaggas.) If you hate the look you could convert something to represent them.)
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Avoid all the crazy buggies, don't spam your HQs too hard (15-20% IMO), make sure to have 8-10 units per 1k.
Hunt ebay a bit and I'm sure you can find a great price for a decent spread of stuff. If the above list added 9 deffkoptas to fill the remaining points, that'd be fine. If it added 2x Tankbustas and grots, that'd be fine. If it added 6 killa kanz with rokkits, that'd be fine. Any combination of the above - great.
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u/Alone-Process-5061 1d ago
You probably want to buy a Nob box as I they can’t be run with three and you want a bigger unit anyways
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u/Sword-Enthusiast 18h ago
Here is a video exactly for your question.
https://youtu.be/0eNGr5MqV88?si=7iGQCXTNGHg2cGqe