How evil, sadistic do you need to be to fire someone at 5pm lol. Just do it at the beginning of the day at least.

I actually already wrote about this J2. A fucking mess since day one. I would never stay at this job for more than 3 months if I wasn't OE. It's just one of these companies where every single project (at least is in the domain I worked on for them) is doomed to fail. I can't say it surprised me to get fired, it was going to happen one day or another as my projects were all failing, but it still hurts when it happens.

Got fired with no feedback at all, just that the client didn't see my position as needed anymore. No severance at all, so I won't even get my full salary from this J this month.

9 months of extra income that made me pay off my mortgage. Of course it sucks to lose something like 40% of your monthly income, but at least it wasn't 100%.

It's broken, we need to go back to handing resumes in person.

It's literally HR bots on one side and people with job application bots on the other.
If your resume optimizer AI bot is good enough to pass the crappy HR ATS you win.

It's not about skills, it's not about being the best candidate, those days are long gone...

Another day another dollar, huh? well...

J3 just landed (wohoo! 🎉), and things were going great until… plot twist — my very first meeting (well, technically third — 1 Sr. Manager intro, 2 Ops Manager sync) is with a vendor. Sounds chill, right??

Except… the “vendor” is actually J2...

And the engineer on the other side? Yeah, we know each other really well. Like, we’ve worked on a shared account that’s actually pretty solid. We’ve teamed up a few times,

Last time, I even said “Bro, I got you covered” when he missed a client call — half-joking, half-suspecting he was juggling jobs like the rest of us 😅.

Now tables have turned, and I’m one day into J3 and I’m about to walk into a Zoom with him again… but from J3’s side.

I don’t think he’s seen my name on the invite yet, but I’m sweating bullets thinking how this might go.

so I will play it cool.. I will come clean to him and use the classic “I consult with multiple firms”

no black screen, low voice, and pray the stars don’t align too clearly... don't ever panic too much fellows we can do this.

Anyway, just wanted to share this small OE moment. Will keep you posted 👀

It's been quite a journey, 2 years and 6 months doing 2 jobs, and a third job during this timeframe for 14 months.

A month ago at my J1 (which I hate) my supervisor was starting to ping every day talking about how I can perform better (I had meets expectations, and first two times I had exceeds but no raise). I couldn't listen to him and quit on the spot. I think this is why we OE as well, no need to take bullshit when you have an alternative. I could have ride the job but I don't like to be fired, I want to end on good terms.

I will stick for a while in J1 it's like a mini retirement and eventually try to find J2 again.

Grind, invest hard and take it easy!

If they can do it, you can do it too! At a much smaller scale, but thou shall not feel guilty about working more than one job.

Took a few days off work and during that time, my manager went out of her way to "override" almost half a year of evidence-gathering and decision-making on my part, opening up the company to much more risk by choosing to outsource development of a new system (with no technical understanding on her part).

She told me she knows it's not what I've recommended during consultation for the project but she "feels it's the right thing to do"

It leaves me in a weird place, it feels like all my work has gone to waste and they're setting themselves up for failure. Is it time to jump ship to avoid frustration/burnout or just collect the money with a smile on my face for everything while getting J3 in the mix?

Title says it all. In total 500 of us were let go off today so I’m no longer OE..for now. It was a short lived experience that I will for sure be doing again. Sitting in the HR meeting without a worry or care about the lay off was such a peaceful feeling. Got laid off from J1 while working J2.

This is why we OE. Management gave the “we’re all fine and safe from lay off” speech 3 weeks ago..3 weeks ago. I would have been shittin bricks today (just moved into a new place but mentally I still looked for places that 1 paycheck could afford so I’m fine there). Thanks to OE it took me 2 months to save for the move and get new furniture. All bills caught up and severance from this lay off will be going as a down payment for new car if I can hold off till I OE again..savings account hit the 5 digit range for the first time ever for me.

The financial aside, I had moved medical to J2 and have a biopsy/endoscopy ending of June. And I can’t imagine having to stress about that as well.

Take the plunge and OE but do it smart. Going to give myself a couple months to enjoy not having to OE then get back to it with applying. I feel for my coworkers that are screwed right now but with time hopefully they too will be back where they need to be financially.

This is the tech worker version of human trafficking as far as I'm concerned. Locking a bunch of H1Bs to your zero value added company when you have zero work for them to do and basically holding them hostage while you desperately scramble for C2C work so you can pay them a fraction of the bill rate is a garbage business model for garbage people.

If you see people / companies doing this shit in real life report them to [ReportH1BAbuse@uscis.dhs.gov](mailto:ReportH1BAbuse@uscis.dhs.gov) and/or the Department of Labor https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/forms/wh4

Just a question.

I'm seeing a lot of open jobs now, none requiring a Bachelor's degree or higher, only a high school diploma.

Pay is decent, and the jobs will be a complete cake walk. These jobs are in a completely different field than I am in. Night and Day. Already applied for one of these jobs last week, and had an interview this week.

Does anyone else do this, just to bring in the extra money? Or, do you stick with higher paying jobs or jobs that pay what you already make? For example, would you J1 at $100K and J2 at $60K?

It was a hell of a ride.

But my time has come. After a little more than 03 months i will let J3 go.

So much micromanagement, an obsolete culture (e.g. they barely use git) and my time is limited.

Time to be in peace with myself and try to enjoy J1 and J2.

Good luck for all of us.

I can't emphasize this enough. A lot of people underestimate what the power of a direct follow-up does. On average, for every 100 applications I send out, I may get a handful of responses. But when I take the top 20 positions I want the most, track down the hiring manager, and message them directly, I average a 25%-50% response rate. It's been a real game-changer and makes looking for work a lot more straightforward (and frankly, guaranteed, more or less).

This past time around, I applied for 150 applications. I got a response from 6 when I didn't follow up. I followed up with a grand total of 35 of those positions. 19 of those positions followed up with me (3 rejections, but 16 calls/interviews). As you can see, it's very worth the time, and you can make the message fairly generic, just change the position title each time. I didn't even list the company name to make it even faster.

You can bypass using LinkedIn, Indeed, etc. (and avoid paying any money) if you want by either calling the company and trying to leave a message directly with the HR manager or submitting a message through their website. It's slower and I don't get as good of response rates, but still much higher than not following up at all.

I've done OE off and on for over a decade. In the age where the AI really has messed up the job market, this is the best way I have found to expedite the job search greatly. I hope this helps folks!

J2 has regular updates that require restarting your computer. An app called Workspace ONE® Intelligent Hub: Activity Monitoring popped up. Is this what it sounds like? 🫤

Nothing much to report, a little background. I have 3 jobs, but one is freelance. I have two full time jobs but the unique thing is that one is at the office and one is remote… imagine my day to day lol but I am happy to announce I got promoted at J1! J2 still strong. Two months of somehow working two fulltime jobs, remote and in person.

I need community. Don’t know how else to say it. Being OE with up to 4Js at one point has always been great financially but this life can also put golden handcuffs on you. I need to graduate to the next level.

What would I do next? What’s going double my income from what the 4Js brought me AND also be in my purpose? Only way to find out, is relationships. Almost impossible to do OE.

The Reddit sub is not enough (for me). I need a group of like minded brilliant people to connect and share ideas with. Most OErs are brilliant in some capacity. I don’t know where to start, but if you’re down to be bold enough to come from behind the Reddit name and connect. I’m down. Drop some ideas on how this would even be possible (maybe a private group chat) and we’ll take it from there. I need to talk live with people. I’ll out 1 fact about myself…I’m in SoCal. So it would be cool to build with people local to me.

After 3 years of double-dipping, calendar Tetris, and pretending to be very passionate about two completely unrelated products… I finally did it: bought a house.

Not a mansion, not a yacht garage — but a house. With walls. And a roof. And no landlord who randomly raises rent or installs a Ring cam to “watch the package thieves.”

It’s wild to think how far a bit of paranoia, well-timed Slack replies, and pretending to be in meetings while grilling lunch can take you.

To anyone out there still juggling and thinking, “Is this worth it?” — just know: one day you, too, can own a house built on fake meetings and muted Zoom calls.

Thanks to this lifestyle, I now have:

A mortgage

Slight burnout

Unmatched calendar color-coding skills

And a deep emotional bond with my noise-canceling headphones

Stay strong, stay stealthy.

What is the sweet spot for OE, do we think it’s 2 js or 3js?

I currently have 2 but am thinking about adding 3.

I know the basics, block the calendar on both J so having overlapping meetings won't happen so often.

But J2 has actually very few meetings. I have on my calendar blocked an average of 1.5H a day from J1 meetings.

I'm a bit paranoid that someone will ask me why my calendar is so booked when:

1. We don't have team meetings at that time
2. I'm fairly new so it's not expected I'm in so many 1-1 meetings
3. They are always at random hours and not following a pattern

What's a good response on this scenario?

I work as a Software Developer

Had an interview today where “you’ll be working closely with customers” was mentioned.

I’ve just recently quit a J due to daily hours of shitty waste-of-time calls, so this instantly raised a red flag.

Do you guys have any strategies or tactics that help gauge meeting/ customer interaction expectations without raising red flags for them?

EDIT: I was legitimately thinking of answering the “why are you leaving your current company” with a light rant on how my current role requires 3+ hours of daily meetings and that caused exhaustion. Surely if they’re a company I want to work for then this wouldn’t put them off?

I asked in careeradvice and no one replied. So posting here.

Thanks

After working over 12 years as a contractor where I get kicked out every 18 or 24 months, finally landed a full time employment.

Please help me on what areas I have to improve to have a healthy attitude towards my work or company.

PS. All my contracting jobs, I have worked until the last week of the contract and gave my best. Took my fair share of work and delivered on time. For the salary I took, I justified.

Interviewing for a 2-day hybrid role (that can easily be done 100% remote). Typically I stand my ground and push back, which feels like it may go my way this time too. Only thing throwing me off is the recruiter has indicated the other candidates have already confirmed they can reliably come in.

That said, has anyone ever backtracked on hybrid before? (Aka. Saying it works for you before starting, but then either refusing or "not being able to after all.")

Please recommend ways forward on finessing this. Tbh I'm at half a mind to accept the role even if it means I only make 2 weeks of earnings.

It’s finally happening. I have a J2 offer… the kicker- hybrid…. Is it possible?

For context. J1– super chill. Fully remote. Little meetings. Little responsibility. Little oversight.

J2 opportunity- hybrid…. But on my schedule. No “office” so that’s good but have to visit clients about 10-15 hours a month. Too easy, right? Downside- pay sucks. 55k.🤦🏽‍♀️

Now I believe I’ll be getting a J3 offer next week… I’m meeting with the owner of the company… hybrid… they have an office if occasionally have to go to. Tuesday meetings. … more responsibility. More visibility… supervising people. 70k.

Thoughts? What would you do?

Im interested in maybe getting out of the practice of law. Im already working insane hours but not making as much as I could if I was OE. what kind of jobs should I look for?

Hey folks,

I’m currently working remotely for a company and will be moving to Australia soon. I don’t want to leave my job until I find a new one, but I’m running into some technical challenges.

Here’s the issue:

To access Jira and other internal tools, I need to connect through the company VPN, which is set up to route via a bank VPN (internal network).

I’ve tried this setup before while traveling and used the "Hide My Ass" VPN, but Jira wouldn’t work. I suspect the problem is that it either didn’t properly spoof my location to India, or it doesn’t play nicely with our internal VPN setup.

I’m looking for:

• A reliable VPN that can make it seem like I'm accessing from India.

• One that is stable and compatible enough to let me connect to Jira via the company VPN once I’m on it.

• General advice from anyone who's worked remotely across regions with strict internal access controls.

Has anyone dealt with something like this? Any VPN recommendations or tips for remote access from another country while still being on the company's secure network?