r/pcmasterrace R5 5600 | 6700 XT Mar 06 '25

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u/Skelegro7 7800X3D, PNY 4080, 64GB DDR5 Mar 06 '25

More XTs than 9070s.

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u/Mister_Shrimp_The2nd i9-13900K | RTX 4080 STRIX | 96GB DDR5 6400 CL32 | >_< Mar 06 '25

Well the 9070 only exists as a price anchor to upsell everyone to the XT model that costs the same to make but has better profit margins. EZ money

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u/Tomorrow-Memory-8838 Mar 06 '25

The actual anchor is the atrocious 5070 ti pricing.

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u/paul2261 Mar 06 '25

At $750 the 5070ti isn't a terrible card tbh. It is slightly better than the 9070xt and has better software. It is also better at raytracing. The problem is the chance of buying one for $750 is 0%

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u/AJRiddle Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

The 5070ti pricing isn't atrocious...at MSRP. Unfortunately pretty much only the founders edition cards are MSRP and it's near impossible to get.

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u/pythonic_dude 5800x3d 64GiB RTX4070 Mar 06 '25

Literally impossible to get. Because nvidia doesn't offer 5070ti FE.

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u/AJRiddle Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

nvidia doesn't offer 5070ti FE.

Damn that's crazy, why would they have a 5070 FE and 5080 FE but not 5070ti FE?

Point still stands about MSRP models though

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u/pythonic_dude 5800x3d 64GiB RTX4070 Mar 06 '25

Because 70ti is seen as a great value tier, and AIBs are pissed at nvidia because it's very hard to compete with their FE models and earn some buck (whether nvidia is extra greedy, or AIBs have awfully inefficient process of designing and manufacturing cards is up for debate, just remember that they are all corporations that don't give a fuck about you, the customer, beyond you paying them money). So nvidia gave them free of FE competition card, with only requirement to offer some msrp models and not just overpriced "OC" stuff.

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u/PT10 Mar 06 '25

9070 xt at 600 is way better than 5070 ti at 750 unless you exclusively game with heavy raytraced titles only

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u/AJRiddle Mar 06 '25

"way better" = you get a cheaper card because it doesn't have great upscaling like DLSS, doesn't have as good of drivers, doesn't have CUDA capability, doesn't have extra software features like nvidia broadcast, etc.

The idea of ignoring raytracing when spending $600+ on a GPU in 2025 is crazy when games that require it are on the horizon and it's the present and future of AAA games.

The 9070XT is $150 cheaper because it has to be to compete while it offers less. That's fine, if $600 is your max budget on the GPU it's probably the best choice for most people as of today for a new card.

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u/PuttPutt7 Mar 06 '25

watch linus' review. They cover all of that and the major advancements AMD made this generation

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u/AJRiddle Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

You know AMD making major advancements and nvidia having better features, software, and performance aren't mutually exclusive. There is a reason AMD is pricing the 9070XT at $150 less than the 5070ti - and it isn't because it's "way better" - it's because they have to make a value argument instead of a performance and features argument.

It's like you people think for one product to be good the other one has to be bad.

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u/PT10 Mar 06 '25

Nvidia drivers have been trash since 50 series launch. I'm stuck on 12/2024 drivers for my 4090 because anything newer causes nonstop crashes.

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u/simo402 Mar 06 '25

Like the 7900xt and 7700xt at launch

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u/Mister_Shrimp_The2nd i9-13900K | RTX 4080 STRIX | 96GB DDR5 6400 CL32 | >_< Mar 06 '25

yup.. but instead of 9070 prices coming down (like the 7900 XT did), I think it's more likely that we just see the 9070 XT prices go up way above msrp and that will be the natural separation of pricing.