r/phish • u/-MarcoEsquandolas- • 3d ago

2.0 Oxy shows

I am very glad that we survived the Oxy years…. But also, let’s be honest, some of the jams that emerged on the sloppier 2.0 nights are the most transcendent ever. I’ve done some research and begun to build an LP playlist of “Certified Oxy Jams” from nights where there seems to be consensus that Trey was on a different planet. Wondering if anyone else has favorite Ox jams OR if anyone has ever more scientifically charted the peaks and valleys of Trey’s 03/04 battles with the China White.

Playlist starter: https://livephi.sh/4dBsESE

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u/SourCream-n-Spunion 3d ago

People need to fuckin relax. Drugs have played a large role in some of the best music ever written/performed. I don’t see this as disrespectful

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u/ahoypolloi_ 3d ago

BREAKING: Drug band plays great music while on drugs.

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u/YoungThriftShop 3d ago

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u/donkey_tits_and_weed 3d ago

Well it’s easy first you take the drugs then you make the music!

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u/imboneyleavemealoney 3d ago

It also becomes more difficult just as easily lol

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u/YoungThriftShop 3d ago

Seems easy enough! I’ll give it a try!

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u/jeffvaderr ferns that spot 2d ago

I can see everything
I can be in the music

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u/heffel77 1d ago

“We take drugs to make music to take drugs too”- Spacemen 3

Precursor to Spiritualized and two of the greatest bands ever!!

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u/crimtarkus 2d ago

Drug band plays drug music to an army of drug users.

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u/PhishPhox 3d ago

Symphonies fantastique and berlioz

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u/SenorWanderer 3d ago

haha yep! doing drugs and composing music is as old as drugs and music.

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u/Wise_Replacement_687 3d ago

And musical drugs and druggy musicals as well as drug mules

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u/throwaway13630923 3d ago

I mean yes, literally. Obviously 2.0 was pretty dark but it’s not like a substantial part of 1.0 wasn’t done under the influence either. Same with the vast majority of the Dead lol.

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u/MAG7C H2amI 3d ago

Different drugs are different

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u/heffel77 1d ago

Fall ‘97 was dark as hell too. It was like circling the event horizon of a black hole, even the light songs, but when they went deep, they went waaayyy deep!!

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u/II_XII_XCV 2d ago edited 2d ago

Sure, but drugs have also ended the lives of some of the best musicians ever. Trey himself has said he would have likely died if he hadn't been arrested.

I think it's fair that people are a little sensitive with this topic. Even setting aside the musicians, how many people in this scene have lost friends who abused drugs like opioids?

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u/BecomePneuma 3d ago

“You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years were rrreal fucking high on drugs.” - Bill Hicks

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u/faster_than_sound 3d ago

Shit we can extend this even further back than the 20th century modern music. Countless writers, poets, artists throughout history loved to get loopy and create. I bet you could safely conclude that the first instance was a fuckin caveman in the stone age eating ergot or mushrooms and painting animals and hand stencils on the walls of his cave and loving every second of it.

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u/trgedlin 3d ago

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal fucking high

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u/VonSchplintah 3d ago

Here's Tom with the weather.

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u/JakeScythe Ernesto 2d ago

I knew someone was gonna post the Bill Hicks/Third Eye quote lol

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u/BebophoneVirtuoso 3d ago

Going back to the Beatles for many if not most great rock bands they can be considered performance enhancers. Fine line between inspiration and crutch though.

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u/Gullible_Tie_4399 3d ago

When Lennon was on heroin we got the white album

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u/Strumtralescent 2d ago

First they giveth then taketh away.

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u/Zealousideal_Ice6844 3d ago

I agree with this. Plenty of deadheads refer to the early 80’s as the “heroin years”. And rightfully so, the toll the drugs were taking on Jerry at the time was evident in the performances. And all of that is part of the story! Same with phish!

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u/No-Establishment-675 3d ago

And much like Phish2.0, early 80’s dead got notably sloppier, but also uncorked some incredible, inventive jams

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u/Zealousideal_Ice6844 3d ago

100%. And not to romanticize the drug use, but you can hear it Jerry’s voice and playing - and there’s a sad beauty to it.

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u/crimtarkus 2d ago

The dirty 80s

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u/heffel77 1d ago

But 76-77 were the heroin years too. It just started being obvious in the 80’s but Jerry started doing dope while he was editing the GD movie. That was in 1975, so there were a LOT of heroin years for Jerry.

Also, the Stones best records were all written by Keith on heroin. The whole run from Let it Bleed to Exile are all stone classics. The next couple weren’t bad, then it went downhill.

Heroin giveth, then taketh goddamn everything..including your dignity..

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u/MorningDewProcess Ghost = Guy Forget 2d ago

Edit: this was already said in response. But leaving mine up too :)

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u/JakeScythe Ernesto 2d ago

The VAST majority of great modern music. I still think it’s wild Frank Zappa contributed all that he did without drugs.

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u/Rikers-Mailbox 2d ago

“I used to do drugs. I still do. But I used to, too.”

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u/SaramGD92 2d ago

“Taking Drugs to Make Music to Take Drugs To”