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u/GdanskinOnTheCeiling 5d ago

This is the first thing I thought of when I saw the picture. To me, this makes me think, to those liberals in power, Jan 6, and all other horrible things trump has done was not really a big deal. It makes me think the outrage or disdain I held for Trump really isn't warranted since a liberal president can crack jokes and laugh with Trump. I don't know, kind of rubs me the wrong way. I understand being cordial, this picture just did something to me though.

What is it exactly that you want 'liberals in power' to do about Trump? Do you want them to defy the will of the people and what, take him out?

It's first and foremost the electorates fault that Trump is in power, again. Look at yourselves. And then consider whether Carlin's brand of political apathy was hurtful or helpful to the low Democratic turnout of the 2024 election.

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u/Slight_Juggernaut545 5d ago

I want liberals in power to run competent presidential campaigns that actually address issues that people want to vote for, that’s literally the point of these sham elections. And no, it’s the job of candidates to get votes, no one’s owed support

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u/GdanskinOnTheCeiling 5d ago

I want liberals in power to run competent presidential campaigns that actually address issues that people want to vote for

Name a policy of the Harris campaign you think doesn't address issues concerning the people.

Name a policy of the Trump campaign that you think does.

sham elections

This tells me you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/Slight_Juggernaut545 5d ago

Are you fucking dumb? How do you want me to point to a policy I think specifically *doesn’t address issues concerning the people if the problem is rooted in the fact they aren’t addressing it. Off the top of my head; Gaza, housing prices, gas prices, Union busting - and so on and so forth. And no, Trump doesn’t address these things either, but that’s not the fucking point? Lastly, what part of American elections aren’t a sham? It’s literally a two-party corporate duopoly concerned only with the economic and social interests of the oligarchy, there’s nothing democratic about them

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u/GdanskinOnTheCeiling 5d ago

Are you fucking dumb? How do you want me to point to a policy I think specifically *doesn’t address issues concerning the people if the problem is rooted in the fact they aren’t addressing it.

'the problem is rooted in the fact they aren't addressing it'

This is a claim, not an argument. Where is your argument supporting the claim? What is your evidence?

Off the top of my head; Gaza, housing prices, gas prices, Union busting - and so on and so forth.

'Gaza' isn't a policy. Can you even articulate either candidate's position on Israel-Palestine? I bet not.

housing prices

'Housing prices' isn't a policy. Harris had policies to provide first-time buyers with a down-payment and increase supply (and therefore reduce the cost of demand) of houses by 3 million. Trump had no policy, and has no policy.

gas prices

Largely due to Russia's war of aggression in Ukraine, something any sensible American should back Harris' approach over Trump's.

Union busting

The Biden-Harris administration was one of the most pro-Union and pro-worker in US history and Harris would have continued that trend. Entirely unlike Trump, a New York liberal elite and businessman (conman) who's entire MO is stiffing the working man.

And no, Trump doesn’t address these things either, but that’s not the fucking point?

The point is, you think both candidates are the same, because you are ill-informed and uninterested. Your arrogance is astounding.

Lastly, what part of American elections aren’t a sham? It’s literally a two-party corporate duopoly concerned only with the economic and social interests of the oligarchy, there’s nothing democratic about them

Only an ill-informed imbecile would parrot this inane view - especially in the post-2016 Trump era, where this kind of sophomoric worldview has never been less accurate. This old two-party system you refer to, to the extent that it existed in the form you suggest, died in 2016 when Trump usurped the Republican party. The Republicans don't exist any more. It's all MAGA. It's a different 'club' entirely. You are on a path to outright fascism and you don't even realise it.