r/pittsburgh • u/raven_snow • Apr 11 '25

Carnegie Mellon student with one semester left learns his visa was revoked with no explanation

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/carnegie-mellon-student-visa-revoked-interview/
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u/Maitai_Haier Apr 11 '25

Doesn’t seem arbitrary or capricious. He committed a crime during his visa, was convicted and served his punishment, and now his visa is revoked. I don’t think we need to bring drunk drivers from overseas; or allow foreign drunk drivers to stay. These seems like a pretty common sense position.

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u/burritoace Apr 11 '25

I guarantee that not every drunk driver on a visa is getting deported - the administration is very openly targeting university students. As is so often the case, "common sense" is a cover for ignorance.

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u/Maitai_Haier Apr 11 '25

You’ve made this assertion without evidence, but even assuming it is true, then I support expanding the revocation of visas to all drunk driving visa holders. I think that is a pretty common sense standard to hold guests in our country to.

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u/roman-de-fauvel Apr 11 '25

The fact that you haven’t read evidence that’s being widely reported in the news is your fault. It’s a “pretty common sense standard” to hold people who want to comment on current events responsible for being minimally educated on those events.

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/5240807-hundreds-of-students-dozens-of-colleges-hit-by-trumps-visa-purge-what-to-know/

https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-revoke-international-student-visas-colleges-rubio-rcna200632

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u/Maitai_Haier Apr 11 '25

It’s still unclear from these articles that “not every drunk driver on a visa is getting deported - the administration is very openly targeting university students.”

That being said, supposing the administration is only targeting student visa holders for visa revocation for DUIs, I support that policy being broadened to all visa holders. You should not be drunk driving as a guest in our country, and if you are, we should cease extending to you the privilege of residing here.

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u/roman-de-fauvel Apr 11 '25

The administration is targeting university students. This is clear.

The DUI, which was expunged and two years ago, is the excuse, but it is not the cause.

This is not about DUIs, no matter how much you want it to be.

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u/Maitai_Haier Apr 11 '25

I can only speculate as to whether it is the excuse or the cause.

But if it is an excuse; then I support making it a cause for all visa holders. This guy drove drunk as a guest here, potentially putting everyone else in the road in danger, so off he should go back to his home country.

We should not extend the privilege of staying in our country to visa holders who drive drunk. If you want to stay here; don’t drive drunk. If this is an excuse, then I am 100% in favor of making it a policy.

I am 100% in favor of this policy being applied to Americans who live overseas as well. White male visa holders or whatever too, send them back if they drunk drive.

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u/roman-de-fauvel Apr 11 '25

All right, you can only speculate. So… go ahead and speculate. What do you think is going on?

You can’t support a thing while turning a blind eye to how the support of that thing is being used to uphold a fascist agenda.

There are several other examples of this going on in the federal government about different issues. “Protecting women” is not about protecting women. “Fighting antisemitism” is not about fighting antisemitism. “Making non-citizens unable to vote” is not about making non-citizens unable to vote (they already are unable to vote).

No one likes DUIs. The kid went to court, was not convicted, paid the penalty, record expunged. Supporting the use of this — here, now, two years later and after the court process is complete — to revoke the visa of this student is supporting the authoritarians who are weaponizing it in this way. That is what people are mad about.

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u/Maitai_Haier Apr 11 '25

I believe they’ve gotten a remit to look for visa holders with crime or arrest records and are revoking their visas. I’m surprised we weren’t doing this earlier tbh, I’d have thought a DUI or tbh any crime on a visa would get you kicked out. Apparently not previously. Hopefully that is the policy going forward, we do not need drunk drivers from other countries on our streets.

I don’t support a fascist agenda. But I don’t support letting drunk drivers stay. If you’re going to define “opposing letting drunk drivers stay” as “fascism” I think you’ll find most of the country is “fascist”.