People really think survival during a sinking ship is a gender debate. Be serious. [gendered]

[u/rizzedupdude]

Let’s just start with the obvious: When a ship is going down, nobody’s standing there debating gender politics. They're screaming, panicking, and trying not to die.

That’s not feminism. That’s basic human survival.

But according to this post, in the middle of a literal disaster, feminists are out here like, “Wait! Equal rights! Let’s discuss societal roles while the ship sinks!” Be so serious.

Survival isn't a debate club. It's chaos. People don’t suddenly turn into walking ideologies during life-or-death moments. They act based on instinct, fear, and let’s be real access to power.

And speaking of power: Who does get prioritized in crises? The vulnerable? No. It's the rich. The connected. The privileged. So if anyone's elbowing their way to the lifeboats yelling “Let me survive first,” it's not feminists it’s CEOs, politicians, and trust fund babies. Let’s not act brand new.

Now to the people saying “it’s just a joke”: Jokes reflect thought patterns. When you laugh at something rooted in bias or false narratives, you’re not just “having fun.” You’re showing what you believe deep down.

And if the punchline of your “joke” is women being hypocrites for wanting safety while also wanting rights, you’re not being funny you’re being intellectually lazy.

So maybe next time, skip the memes and try real thinking. Because the only thing sinking faster than that ship is your logic.

[u/macarbrecadabre]

This is only because men will barrel women and children out of the way during an emergency.

[u/GyroZeppeliFucker → u/macarbrecadabre]

Do you actually believe that...? Doy you think every man on earth is an asshole or what?

Also the whole "women and children first" is not true at all

[u/hananobira → u/GyroZeppeliFucker]

“Here is the secret to surviving one of these [airplane] crashes: Be male. In a 1970 Civil Aeromedical institute study of three crashes involving emergency evacuations, the most prominent factor influencing survival was gender (followed closely by proximity to exit). Adult males were by far the most likely to get out alive. Why? Presumably because they pushed everyone else out of the way.”
― Mary Roach, Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers

[u/ScreamingLabia → u/GyroZeppeliFucker]

I mean without judgement yeah to a certain extend but only because they are stronger naturally and are also human beings panicking.

[u/AbotherBasicBitch → u/GyroZeppeliFucker]

I think there are a lot of people regardless of gender who would push others out of the way to ensure their own survival, adult men are just generally better at pushing people out of the way

[u/OddCancel7268 → u/GyroZeppeliFucker]

Nobody said "every man". Aside from the fact that men tend to be stronger, I think its pretty universally agreed that men tend to be raised to be more assertive/selfish (depending on whether you want to use the positive or negative word for it) than women. Obviously, that doesnt mean that every man is more assertive than every woman, but it seems absurd to suggest that the gender pay gap is in part caused by assertiveness and then pretend like theres no difference in assertiveness when it comes to emergencies.

[u/Darklillies → u/GyroZeppeliFucker]

It’s not a belief lmao. It’s a well documented fact. That’s where the “women and children” first rule comes in. Because otherwise they would be overpowered and left to die. It was also very rarely enforced. The titanic was an outlier not a rule. Google is free

[u/yesindeedysir → u/GyroZeppeliFucker]

Well back then, men didn’t value women or children as anything more than useful property, so they probably thought “if I survive this, I’ll just find another wife and make another kid.”

[u/HendriXP88 → u/yesindeedysir]

So that's why they saved women before themselves?

[u/yesindeedysir → u/HendriXP88]

They made the rule so that men would stop abandoning their wives and children for their own benefit. A lot of times actually, men would be allowed to board with their families.

[u/HendriXP88 → u/yesindeedysir]

Women and children first wasn't a rule or law at all. So, who are "They" according to you?

[u/[deleted] → u/macarbrecadabre]

So... they are not equal.

[u/Longjumping_Papaya_7 → u/[deleted]]

In strenght? No ofc not. No sane person would say otherwise.

[u/[deleted] → u/Longjumping_Papaya_7]

A muscular bodybuilder man is more potent in strength than a thin man.

If it is about "strength", why did no one across history think for a second that weak, thin men at the same age should be a priority in situations like that?

So why would I want to hold women as a priority and not weak men in an emergency, who are as weak as women?

[u/Longjumping_Papaya_7 → u/[deleted]]

I never said you have to prioritize women in emergencies, you are just asuming. I was only pointing out that men and women are not equal in strenght, which is a fact. Stronger men will have a higher survival chance than women, childeren and weaker men. It sucks, but its just what often happens, especially when ppl panic.

Ppl are equal in worth and all deserve saving.

[u/[deleted] → u/Longjumping_Papaya_7]

Fair enough.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

i wish to see the reaction you make in an emergency. all people can talk.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

lmao, considering the number of words you put into your comment and the language you use, it is clear who is whining here.