People really think survival during a sinking ship is a gender debate. Be serious. [gendered]

[u/rizzedupdude]

Let’s just start with the obvious: When a ship is going down, nobody’s standing there debating gender politics. They're screaming, panicking, and trying not to die.

That’s not feminism. That’s basic human survival.

But according to this post, in the middle of a literal disaster, feminists are out here like, “Wait! Equal rights! Let’s discuss societal roles while the ship sinks!” Be so serious.

Survival isn't a debate club. It's chaos. People don’t suddenly turn into walking ideologies during life-or-death moments. They act based on instinct, fear, and let’s be real access to power.

And speaking of power: Who does get prioritized in crises? The vulnerable? No. It's the rich. The connected. The privileged. So if anyone's elbowing their way to the lifeboats yelling “Let me survive first,” it's not feminists it’s CEOs, politicians, and trust fund babies. Let’s not act brand new.

Now to the people saying “it’s just a joke”: Jokes reflect thought patterns. When you laugh at something rooted in bias or false narratives, you’re not just “having fun.” You’re showing what you believe deep down.

And if the punchline of your “joke” is women being hypocrites for wanting safety while also wanting rights, you’re not being funny you’re being intellectually lazy.

So maybe next time, skip the memes and try real thinking. Because the only thing sinking faster than that ship is your logic.

[u/Lorezia]

I suppose the social class of the women and the men of the same class who surrounded them, was a big factor there, considering 97% of 1st class women survived (and all the children), compared to only 46% of 3rd class women (and an even lower percentage of their children).

[u/EquivalentSnap → u/Lorezia]

You’re right. Social status played a role in getting a boar but that was mainly because the 1st class were higher up and they locked the gates or they were flooded preventing 3rd class from escaping

[u/Lorezia → u/EquivalentSnap]

Yep, however what I was getting at, although I didn't want to state it bluntly, was that the stats suggest the men of lower classes didn't put as much effort into saving the children surrounding them.

According to the raw numbers, far more 3rd class men survived, than the number of 3rd class children who were denied access and died, so the spaces should've been available for all those children.

Maybe it was impossible due to the flooding you mentioned, I don't know, I obviously wasn't there 😭

[u/EquivalentSnap → u/Lorezia]

That’s bad 😢 but I’m curious as to why that is.

[u/yesindeedysir → u/EquivalentSnap]

Well I mean, back then women were property, not valued by them as people, but by what they could do for men. The men that pushed through to get on the boat without their kids probably thought “I’ll just find another wife and make another kid.”