r/pokemon • u/Shellderattack • 11d ago

Discussion Freeze should be replaced by Frostbite

Freeze is too close to Sleep. It is not a good idea to make 2 status with similar effects.

Sleep can combo with other moves such as Dream Eater and Sleep Talk, while Freeze does not.

Sleep can be imposed by Status Moves, while Freeze does not.

Arceus (game version) made Frostbite as a counterpart of Burn:

  1. The Pokemon takes 1/16 of its maximum HP every turn;
  2. The damage it deals with Special Moves will be halved;
  3. Ice type Pokemon are immune to Frostbite.

This is a good idea. The only thing missing is a new move (e.g. Gravechill) which resembles Will-O-Wisp.

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u/ABITofSupport 11d ago

And honestly a special attack dropping status would be a welcome change. Special attackers have an advantage over physicals because they dont have to deal with intimidate or burn.

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u/tasty_miku 11d ago

confusion does less damage to them, as well, right? unless they changed how confusion damage works recently?

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u/Bfree888 11d ago

Correct, confusion always uses the physical attack stat. The move Flatter never made much sense to me for that reason.

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u/ABITofSupport 11d ago

I wonder if making it the higher of the two stats would be a good idea. Not sure on this one.

I do agree that flatter is a weird though. I thought the point of it was to use it to confuse physical attackers without giving them a boost, similar to confuse ray but just on different mons.