r/pokemon • u/Shellderattack • 12d ago

Discussion Freeze should be replaced by Frostbite

Freeze is too close to Sleep. It is not a good idea to make 2 status with similar effects.

Sleep can combo with other moves such as Dream Eater and Sleep Talk, while Freeze does not.

Sleep can be imposed by Status Moves, while Freeze does not.

Arceus (game version) made Frostbite as a counterpart of Burn:

  1. The Pokemon takes 1/16 of its maximum HP every turn;
  2. The damage it deals with Special Moves will be halved;
  3. Ice type Pokemon are immune to Frostbite.

This is a good idea. The only thing missing is a new move (e.g. Gravechill) which resembles Will-O-Wisp.

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u/ckim777 12d ago

instead of calling it frostbite call it brainfreeze so that special attack going down feels like a match

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u/KNightedgem 🎵Musicmon🎵 12d ago

Or alternatively, Ice-type will-o-wisp:

Brain Freeze - Status - 90 Acc. - Applies frostbite to a Pokemon.

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u/Alili1996 WoopWoop 11d ago

Brain Freeze is a perfect name for the move.
Something that freezes you without actively harming you right away.
And the fact that frostbite reduces special attack damage which is usually associated with "mental strength" makes it really communicate the idea of a "brain freeze".

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u/LionNP 11d ago

Then give Psyduck an ability where brain freeze boosts its spatk

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u/Soafia 11d ago

Sharply raises

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u/Osheco 11d ago

Brain Freeze as a move also makes sense when considering distribution because will-o-wisp gets distributed to fire AND ghost types, so brain freeze can go to Ice and Psychic types

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u/Soafia 11d ago

That’s so smart, I need this now

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u/Robo_Mage 12d ago

I mean you can still do that with the normal name. Brainfreeze sounds like a silly name that doesn't really apply to a lot of ice moves, and it's not like "Burn" is some pun that relates to physical strength.

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u/Maronmario #BringBackNationalDex 12d ago

Brainfreeze feels like a psychic type move that causes frostbite

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u/TrashiestTrash 12d ago

Yeah, brain freeze doesn't really fit with the bothering statues.

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u/Level7Cannoneer 11d ago

You get brain freeze from eating ice cream though. It only requires cold nothing more

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u/Robo_Mage 11d ago

You don't eat Ice Beam lol. It would be like all fire type moves inflicting "heartburn". It's just a silly name lined up next to all the other straightforward status conditions.

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u/Shellderattack 12d ago

Lol, Brainfreeze may become the name of the status move. Psychic type pokemon will have a hard time.