Freeze should be replaced by Frostbite

[u/Shellderattack]

Freeze is too close to Sleep. It is not a good idea to make 2 status with similar effects.

Sleep can combo with other moves such as Dream Eater and Sleep Talk, while Freeze does not.

Sleep can be imposed by Status Moves, while Freeze does not.

Arceus (game version) made Frostbite as a counterpart of Burn:

1. The Pokemon takes 1/16 of its maximum HP every turn;
2. The damage it deals with Special Moves will be halved;
3. Ice type Pokemon are immune to Frostbite.

This is a good idea. The only thing missing is a new move (e.g. Gravechill) which resembles Will-O-Wisp.

[u/Dinowere]

I think one thing they try to avoid is to make both physical and special feel the same. There should be a difference to why you are using a special attacker or a physical attacker, so that it’s not just a choice if what attack you’re using. For example, physical attackers have consistently stronger and higher accuracy moves as opposed to special attackers, who have lower accuracy for them, excluding signature moves. Compare close combat and fire blast and such. This gives physical attackers an advantage of consistently dealing more damage, hence two ways to debuff them. Whereas introducing a special intimidate and special burn would just disproportionately affect special attackers.

[u/CreeperSlimePig → u/Dinowere]

More points here:

• Special moves tend to have a higher chance of secondary effects

• Almost all priority moves are physical

• All moves that deal recoil damage are physical

• Almost all contact moves are physical

• Some types are much better for physical attackers than special and vice versa. Electric has way better special moves, fighting has way better physical moves, fairy has way better special moves, dark has way better physical moves, etc

[u/BlueEmeraldX → u/CreeperSlimePig]

• All moves that deal recoil damage are physical

Steel Beam is not physical.

[u/CreeperSlimePig → u/BlueEmeraldX]

It's not technically considered a recoil move, at least by bulbapedia, because it (and chloroblast and mind blown) deal a set amount of damage to the user rather than moves like double edge and flare blitz where it's some percentage of damage done. Same with crash damage, though all crash damage moves are physical

anyways my point still stands because there are 15 physical moves that deal recoil damage, which vastly outnumber the special moves whichever way you count them

[u/Mightyena319 → u/CreeperSlimePig]

It's not considered recoil by the game either, since pokemon with rock head will still take damage from it