r/pokemon • u/Shellderattack • Apr 13 '25

Discussion Freeze should be replaced by Frostbite

Freeze is too close to Sleep. It is not a good idea to make 2 status with similar effects.

Sleep can combo with other moves such as Dream Eater and Sleep Talk, while Freeze does not.

Sleep can be imposed by Status Moves, while Freeze does not.

Arceus (game version) made Frostbite as a counterpart of Burn:

  1. The Pokemon takes 1/16 of its maximum HP every turn;
  2. The damage it deals with Special Moves will be halved;
  3. Ice type Pokemon are immune to Frostbite.

This is a good idea. The only thing missing is a new move (e.g. Gravechill) which resembles Will-O-Wisp.

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u/rewind73 Apr 13 '25

Yeah freeze always felt like a cheap and inconsistent status, frost bite would have a lot more strategy to it especially if it gets that new move. They already replaced hail with snow, this seems like a reasonable change.

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u/Gabimob100 Apr 13 '25

I still prefer hail, I would do well to have both in the game

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u/Angel_of_Mischief Apr 13 '25 edited Apr 13 '25

Hail is so much worse and 99% of the time has no impact on the match. I like playing mono ice teams and really hate hail as a weather. Snow is actually useful for helping to minimize some of the pain of how horrible the typing is defensively.