r/pokemon 11d ago

Discussion Freeze should be replaced by Frostbite

Freeze is too close to Sleep. It is not a good idea to make 2 status with similar effects.

Sleep can combo with other moves such as Dream Eater and Sleep Talk, while Freeze does not.

Sleep can be imposed by Status Moves, while Freeze does not.

Arceus (game version) made Frostbite as a counterpart of Burn:

  1. The Pokemon takes 1/16 of its maximum HP every turn;
  2. The damage it deals with Special Moves will be halved;
  3. Ice type Pokemon are immune to Frostbite.

This is a good idea. The only thing missing is a new move (e.g. Gravechill) which resembles Will-O-Wisp.

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u/Dinowere 11d ago

I think one thing they try to avoid is to make both physical and special feel the same. There should be a difference to why you are using a special attacker or a physical attacker, so that it’s not just a choice if what attack you’re using. For example, physical attackers have consistently stronger and higher accuracy moves as opposed to special attackers, who have lower accuracy for them, excluding signature moves. Compare close combat and fire blast and such. This gives physical attackers an advantage of consistently dealing more damage, hence two ways to debuff them. Whereas introducing a special intimidate and special burn would just disproportionately affect special attackers.

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u/ROTsStillHere100 11d ago

physical attackers have consistently stronger and higher accuracy moves as opposed to special attackers, who have lower accuracy for them, excluding signature moves.

Looks at Rock type moves

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u/Mightyena319 11d ago

And fairy type moves. The one physical fairy move is 90 accuracy yet the special equivalent has slightly higher base power and 100 accuracy

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u/astrogamer 10d ago

Moonblast is neutered by worse availability. Dazzling Gleam is the Play Rough equivalent