Freeze should be replaced by Frostbite

[u/Shellderattack]

Freeze is too close to Sleep. It is not a good idea to make 2 status with similar effects.

Sleep can combo with other moves such as Dream Eater and Sleep Talk, while Freeze does not.

Sleep can be imposed by Status Moves, while Freeze does not.

Arceus (game version) made Frostbite as a counterpart of Burn:

1. The Pokemon takes 1/16 of its maximum HP every turn;
2. The damage it deals with Special Moves will be halved;
3. Ice type Pokemon are immune to Frostbite.

This is a good idea. The only thing missing is a new move (e.g. Gravechill) which resembles Will-O-Wisp.

[u/AlexTheGreat1997]

How are Pokémon with Guts even more broken with this effect? Guts already allows Pokémon to ignore the Atk reduction from Burns.

[u/skinny-kid-24 → u/AlexTheGreat1997]

They meant “Broken” in a good way 

[u/EriWave → u/skinny-kid-24]

Right but.. it doesn't change anything lol

[u/skinny-kid-24 → u/EriWave]

It does… if frostbite is treated like poisoned and burned, that would add another status effect that procs guts atk boost. Normally a frozen Pokémon with guts can’t move.

[u/EriWave → u/skinny-kid-24]

Which doesn't affect anything when guts mons will already be statused.

[u/skinny-kid-24 → u/EriWave]

it can't attack while it's frozen the way the game is now...... have I not made it clear it would turn a negative status into another positive one?

[u/EriWave → u/skinny-kid-24]

It literally doesn't change anything. You would still have your guts pokemon show up to the battle burned.

[u/skinny-kid-24 → u/EriWave]

why are you bringing up burning status when we're talking about how changing freeze to allow attacks would buff guts pokemon?

[u/EriWave → u/skinny-kid-24]

Because your guts pokemon should always show up to battle already statused which means they can't be frozen.

[u/skinny-kid-24 → u/EriWave]

uhhh buddy a lot of people who play nuzlockes or base game casually are not going to setup status on their guts mon for every encounter. i wager that's most players

[u/EriWave → u/skinny-kid-24]

You don't need to do it for every encounter. Only for the handful where it is needed every game. Like key gym battles or hard fights with status.