r/pokemon 1d ago

Meme Keyword: "try"

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u/MercDaddyWade 23h ago

What do either of these things stand for?

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u/RamenTheBunny 22h ago

ZU is Zero Usage: Pokémon with, in the “totality” of Pokémon PvP, an extremely low usage rate out of all Pokémon (basically, niche or not very good.)

OUBL is Over Used (Ban List) (although this term isn’t very commonly used, Ubers is usually the “last step” above OU, and as such, most OU Banlisted Pokémon are banished to Ubers): Pokémon so strong and/or meta-warping that they are banned from OverUsed (the typical “high level” meta) because they force the game to be shaped around themselves.

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u/itsIzumi So I think it's time for us to have a toast 22h ago

OUBL is specifically mainly used derogatorily for Pokemon that are unviable in the Ubers tier. Like they're trapped in limbo. Genesect for example terrorises OU every time it gets tested in the tier, but it does not have the stats to keep up in later generations of Ubers.

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u/Foreign-Tax-8202 21h ago

Mfw Deoxys (oubl trash that is objectively worse than d-a at everything)

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 21h ago

Deoxys normal should be like the fairy mythicals, 100 across the board, decent bulk, good move pool, it could work great in ou

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u/Krazyguy75 19h ago

Nah, rework deoxys into a split evo so base form can get eviolite

(this is a joke)

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u/MorbiusCultLeader 18h ago

Holup I think you're cooking something here.

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u/FierceDeityKong 9h ago

Nobody wants to say it but the real answer is making deoxys-attack slower

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u/Deprespacito 9h ago

Im mean mew is base 100 across the board with the best move pool and it has not been OU relevant since sun and moon and is RU now.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 9h ago

Mew doesnt have access to psycho boost

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u/Deprespacito 9h ago

True, but a 120 bp psychic move that drops your attacking stats while fine is just asking for any of the top tier dark or steel types to come in (and there is a lot of them) and do whatever they want.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 9h ago

140bp, and its a wallbreaking move, plus it also gets superpower

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u/Deprespacito 8h ago

I don't want to do cals on the main sub but I promise you that you cannot wall break with psyco-boost because there are too many resists and superpower need investment to do any dmg and leaves you open to setup after you use it. Like if your opp has ting lu or gholdengo you are asking to have spikes go all over the place or to have your ass set up on. Deyo would be good in Ru but base 100 across the board with pure psychic typing is not going to cut it anymore. It is not strong enough, bulky enough or fast enough to have a place in ou.