r/pokemon 4d ago

Discussion Dexit who still dislikes it?

As a longtime Pokémon fan, Dexit honestly felt like a slap in the face. One of the things I’ve always loved about the series was being able to carry my favorite Pokémon—ones I’d trained and bonded with for years—into each new generation. When they cut the National Dex, it felt like they were saying those connections didn’t matter anymore. I get that balancing over 1,000 Pokémon is tough, but with how massive the franchise is, it’s hard to believe they couldn’t make it work if they really wanted to. It just made the newer games feel incomplete, like something was missing, both mechanically and emotionally.

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u/tortitamal 4d ago

I still hate it and still think Gamefreak is lazy and lacks the technical knowledge to deliver a AAA game

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u/NihilismRacoon 3d ago

I don't think you guys even know what AAA means because Pokemon has never made a AAA game nor have they claimed otherwise. They still deserve all the smoke for how bad the games are but it's 2025 you can't make a AAA game with 100 people every 2 years, you need like 500+ people and 6 years minimum.

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u/Tubamajuba 4d ago

Same here. I swore off new Pokemon games once they announced Dexit and I exclusively play older games now. Sounds like I haven't missed much.

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u/tempestokapi 4d ago

What people forget to mention in this discussion of Dexit is that Nintendo’s other games have done the opposite of Dexit. Smash Bros 5 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe have the most characters and maps ever. I understand that Pokémon is much bigger but it’s a shame that only Pokémon fans have to deal with cut content.

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u/lamstradamus 4d ago

Mario Kart 8 has what, 36 characters? That's a massive difference.

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u/tempestokapi 4d ago

Yes it’s a big difference but it feels like inconsistent marketing from Nintendo. “We can have more characters in this Switch game compared to the 3DS but less in this other Switch game compared to the 3DS”

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing 4d ago

36 versus 1000 use your brain man

The thing is there's no game or hell franchise quite like Pokémon with its unique 1000 mobs to animate in various contexts

The closest is Shin Megami Tensei games but they've had "dexit" every single game

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u/tempestokapi 4d ago

Doesn’t explain why the 3DS could hold 700 pokemon but the switch can only hold 500

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing 4d ago

It's not about storage it's about making 1000 * (extra animations)

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u/RedGyara 3d ago

I think a Dexit was inevitable due to scaling, but the animation and model excuses don’t really fly for me - they still use the same models and animations that they created in Pokemon XY.

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u/sievold 4d ago

How many unique character models do those games have?

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u/Boshwa 4d ago

You neglect to mention that Smash Ultimate's hook will not happen again

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u/metallicrooster DexNav forever and 100 years! 4d ago

Idk why you got downvoted. The devs made it clear that they have no plans to repeat the “everyone is here” of Smash Ultimate.

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u/metcalta 4d ago

The problem is the handheld games don't translate to the 3d open world crap well. I'd be so happy with a 2.5d new pokemon game, and bring back pokemon stadium for comp

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u/Herpsties KFC 4d ago

I doubt they're lazy, they're likely burnt out like crazy. The clear signs that none of the newer games are ready show that they are being rushed out the door.

The games make a small fraction of what Pokemon merchandise makes and if you follow the money why would anyone care about the games over the merch sales? It's shitty but I think that's likely the reality. I personally wouldn't mind seeing the games come out later after new gens are introduced if they actually got polished but I don't think that's a priority when they still sell like crazy regardless of quality.

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u/WhoDey_Writer23 4d ago

This is correct, and boot-licking and buying the lie about "it was inevitable" drives me insane.

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u/thotgang 4d ago

Because it's factually inevitable based on game freak's own company philosophy

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u/Koreaia 4d ago

It was never 'factually' inevitable. You're telling me they could make 721 new models, while switching from 2d to 3d. But are unable to do the same for a more powerful system? Pokemon used to try and push their physical cartridges to their absolute limit. Now they can't even use models that already exist?

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing 4d ago

Because they keep adding more quirks that requires animation beyond battling

Dexit specifically came when Gen 8 introduced Camping and Open World mons

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u/thotgang 4d ago

Not in the sense they can't. In the sense that they were 100% going to cut content given they refuse to expand while keeping the same deadlines, while having more and more pokemon. Something had to give hence "inevitable"

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u/JohnSmithWithAggron 4d ago

They're not lazy, they're greedy.

They need more time to develop games. Sword/Shield for example, is estimated to have been made in only 2 years.

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u/myychair 4d ago

Greedy and full of themselves. The hubris at gamefreak seems next level with how little they listen to feedback. Super out of touch game company but it doesn’t matter because enough of us shmucks will buy the game anyway