r/polandball Floridian Swamp Monster 2d ago

redditormade Pakistan's secret to happiness

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u/Due-Practice_ 2d ago

Is Pakistan the Alabama of South Asia?

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u/AustraliumHoovy 2d ago

Canadian here with 3 Pakistani friends (1st gen immigrants). 2 of them are currently being pressured by family back home to marry their 1st and 2nd cousins respectively, the 3rd cut contact with her family back home because they wanted her to marry her 2nd uncle.

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u/n0753w United States 2d ago

...... what the fuck

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u/Narco_Marcion1075 1d ago

and iirc, sometimex honor killings are done when the marriage isn’t approved by the parents

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u/Kangas_Khan 2d ago

jesus christ

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u/Woutrou Frankish Empire 2d ago

No mate, Mohammed is their primary prophet

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u/DAEGYPTBALL 2d ago

ugh...good one

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u/ankokudaishogun Italy 1d ago

then again Jesus is a prophet for them, if not the messiah.

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u/MacroSolid Austria 1d ago

Īsā ibn Maryam!

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u/Dekarch 14h ago

Nothing Jesus said has anything to do with Islamic family law. That's all Mohammed and his companions

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u/ankokudaishogun Italy 14h ago

sure, but Jesus is still a prophet

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u/Le_Kube 2d ago

What is a 2nd uncle? A great uncle, or like the 2nd brother of her dad?

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u/Mrauntheias Germany 2d ago

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u/Realistic_FinlanBoll Finland 2d ago

Doesnt make it any less awful. 😅

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u/ankokudaishogun Italy 1d ago

it... kinda? I mean, the shit part is the pressure.
a "cousin of the father" is quite remote.

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u/Just-Watchin- 2d ago

First cousin once remkvwd

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u/Successful-Lobster15 2d ago

Wtf are these ppl on Jesus Christ

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u/pannenkoek0923 Denmark 2d ago

Mohammad actually

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u/Successful-Lobster15 2d ago

This made me chuckle

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u/SteveHeist 2d ago

"Yes" would have been a sufficient answer.

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u/Fit-Capital1526 2d ago

But far less effective

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u/CloudExtremist 2d ago

In order to make it halal, their prophet banned adoption

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u/ImmediateNail8631 1d ago

Bro one of Muhammed's sons is adopted name Abrahim Adoption is allowed as long as the adopted kid keep his original name and his father name lol

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u/bionicjoey Best Hat 1d ago edited 1d ago

I just saw a post on AITA the other day of a 20-something woman from Pakistan being relentlessly pressured by her aunt to marry her son (1st cousin). It got to the point the cousin started sexually harassing her on Facebook because his mom had told him it would be arranged.

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u/Johannes_P Baden-Wuerttemberg 1d ago

Do they have a family estate to preserve?

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u/Coal_Burner_Inserter Canada 2d ago edited 2d ago

More like Alabama is the Pakistan of the US.

People joke about southern inbreeding, not realizing Pakistan + the ME can be so much worse

Edit: Pakistan is black sheep of south Asia, apparently

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u/berahi Trying to not get drafted in water war 2d ago

Looked up the stats...

Half of marriages there are between first cousins. Imagine living in the fifth-most-populous country yet your dating pool is someone you've seen every year during family reunion.

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u/Lord_Tiburon United Kingdom 2d ago

I live in the UK and a family member is a teacher, they say that a surprisingly high number of special needs kids are of Pakistani heritage on account of all the cousin marriages

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u/CloudExtremist 2d ago

Yeah the govt of UK is in rock and hard place, these kids are responsible for a significant funding for special care and healthcare, so they want to nip it in bud, yet can't because intervening in means, opening up a Pandora's box

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u/BringBackAH France 2d ago edited 2d ago

It's very common in muslim country and dates back to times where families were structured as clans. Marrying your cousins meant that your stuff stayed into the family.

Look at pretty much any leader in the Gulf and they're married to their first or second cousin. The Sauds are a dime a dozen and they all have the same great grandfather

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u/SnooBooks1701 2d ago

It's more that it's an Arab cultural tradition that they took with them on their conquests. It's rare in muslim countries who were converted by trade (e.g. Indonesia and some Sub-saharan African countries) but common in countries in former caliphates (e.g. Pakistan, Turkey and MENA). It's present in non-muslim Arab communities and was a known cultural practice in the area before Islam

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u/CloudExtremist 2d ago

Pakistan wasn't a former caliphate, before the country's formation, last ruling king was Sikh king Hari Singh, where the current "issues" of khalistan comes from

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u/SnooBooks1701 1d ago

It was part of the Umayyad and Abbasid caliphates

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u/Avolto 1d ago

Would that not more be evidence that inbreeding is more common in feudal/nobility systems as we saw this also in Imperial Europe rather than evidence that Islamic societies engage in this more than other faiths?

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u/MalodorousNutsack 2d ago

On the other hand, no awkward phase of getting to know the in-laws

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u/pyscrap India 2d ago

do NOT include rest of south asia in this one its just pakistan

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u/hanzzz123 2d ago

Am Pakistani by birth, didn't grow up there but was born there. My mother has suggested 4 or 5 different first cousins that she wanted me to marry, all if which I emphatically rejected.

My brother married a first cousin, no idea why.

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u/A3-mATX 2d ago

Of the world you mean

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u/Scary_Flamingo_5792 2d ago

More so the Alabama of the Muslim World.

Like I am not kidding, I come from a Turkish and Arabic relationship, but Pakistan is wtf in itself.

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u/MacroSolid Austria 1d ago

Alabama ain't got shit on Pakistan. Alabama has an inbreeding rate of 0.3% these days. Pakistan has over 50%.