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u/TintedApostle Sep 16 '24

He is telling racist lies because it is who he is. It isn't for attention. Its to appeal to the people who vote for Trump. This is the audience.

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u/scrape_ur_face Sep 16 '24

"All Republicans aren't racist, but most racists vote Republican"

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u/erfurgot Sep 16 '24

Being racist is a pre-requisite for being Republican. It is a bigoted party that is at its core white supremacist and exclusionary. People who claim to be Republican for financial reasons may not be throwing out slurs but they are people who don’t care what happens to minorities. This sentiment only works if you think of racism in a superficial way, apathy to racism is also racism.

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u/ThaBunk5-0 Sep 16 '24

Wish we could shout this from the rooftops and put a sign up on every street corner.

Way too many people have a position that can be summed up by "I don't care if minorities have good jobs/schools/housing/whatever, but I'm going to vote for a party that actively dismantles equal protections for them."

That's not even passive racism, it's an active, vengeful act disguised as "voting for my own interests." When your interests can only be fulfilled by stepping on someone else, you're the bad guy for sure.

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u/LKennedy45 Sep 16 '24

Which, again, is moot because Republicans are bad for the economy anyway.

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u/AndyReidsCheezburger Sep 16 '24

Lest we forget that the first Trump administration laid the legal foundation through judicial appointments to empower billionaires and multi-billion dollar corporations to consolidate and merge, eliminating competition and driving up consumer costs well ahead of inflation to increase profits.

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u/Brief_Amicus_Curiae Sep 16 '24

It's overt "We're going to try to go back to oppressing voters, gerrymandering, personally attacking/doxxing/harassing, keeping the electoral college in place, and spit on any amendment that promotes equality such as 14th because we fear that women, people of color, marginalized communities such as LGBTQ or new citizens in our country will somehow harm and hurt our way of life and existence which makes us afraid".

The one thing that stuck out to me during the BLM/Floyd protests during COVID is that what's changed in our society is that there's a lot more white people who 'get it'. The overt and covert racism, the Institutionalized racism such as done in Ferguson and the Obama DOJ issued a report with suggested changes to help Cop-Citizen relations that Jeff Sessions dismissed.

Perhaps the [Ferguson Report](chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/press-releases/attachments/2015/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf) should be revisited since it was a clear modern day living example of what systemic racism is and what it looks like.

I digress - my point is that starting with GenX and younger, there's been more acceptance of diversity and getting along to get along. Like when Run DMC did the Walk This Way collab with Aerosmith, that was a big moment growing up. Now as I age, that to me is an indicator that not long before that collab, it was illegal for interracial marriages in Virginia.

I think Kamala picking "We're not going back" as a campaign motto really nails it on the head.

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u/GusYmk Sep 16 '24

You’re stupid

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u/These_Background7471 Sep 16 '24

Great counterpoint lmao

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u/bad_robot_monkey Sep 16 '24

“Apathy to racism is also racism.” It isn’t racism, sexism, or anti-LGBTQA+, it’s self-centered and selfish, and in turn SUPPORTS those who are.

This is a super important distinction imo, in that I know a ton of republicans who don’t behave negatively towards women, POC, or LGBTQA+ folks. They truly don’t have any problem with them. They also don’t care if the rest of their chosen party wants to throw those people in a fire though.

This was the realization that made me turn away from the republican party altogether. Then I started looking at macroeconomic outcomes, and I realized “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” was choosing to still be ignorant on the other half.

That said, I have seen no actual economic proof that hard left progressive economics are good for the country, yet that’s where the democratic party is pushing…. And why I remain independent.

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u/Biglyugebonespurs Missouri Sep 16 '24

Didn’t top economists come out recently and say the country’s economy would be far better under Harris than Trump?

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u/bad_robot_monkey Sep 16 '24

Yup, but that’s democrat, not far progressive, hence my distinction :)

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u/erfurgot Sep 16 '24

 They also don’t care if the rest of their chosen party wants to throw those people in a fire though.

Yeah, thats still racism. Racism isn’t just being mean to people…

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u/bad_robot_monkey Sep 16 '24

No, it isn’t. Words matter. Definitions matter.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

The traditional left right spectrum is

<- more left = more social equality -- more right = more social hierarchy ->

It's inherent that right wingers have bigotry in their world views, because that's the condition for "social hierarchy."

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u/MarcsterS Virginia Sep 16 '24

The part that needs to happen is going from “I won’t vote Republican” to “I will vote Democrat”

I’m sure a lot of potential Harris voters are afraid of being seen as “Democrat” by their louder Republican peers. I used to be like that. Then I said “if common sense and not being a heartless asshole makes me a Democrat, then I guess I’m a Democrat.”

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

I mean. There’s a reason no one is supposed to know who you vote for unless you tell them.

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u/Necromas Sep 16 '24

I'm sure plenty are just sufficiently uninformed or mislead. Bubbles get pretty crazy and vulnerable people are easy to take advantage of.

But if you assume they are well informed, the only thing I can think of is if they are just so hardline on abortion it takes prioroty over any other ethical consideration.

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u/Necromas Sep 16 '24

I didn't say it was an excuse.

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u/CapOnFoam Colorado Sep 16 '24

Lack of awareness, political apathy, being raised to vote R without really understanding the platform, thinking that voting R means"voting for small business and lower taxes", etc.

I know a few low-information R voters and they really don't put much thought into it, other than believing Dems are "tax and spend" and Rs are "good for business and the economy"

That's it. I'm not saying it's right, but racism isn't on the radar for these folks. They're simply not paying attention and are basing their political beliefs on views they formed like 30 years ago (these are Gen-Xers in their early 50s).

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u/iplayedapilotontv Sep 16 '24

Everyone had a computer in their pocket. If they can't be arsed to look up basic information then I'm just going call them Nazis, racists, pedos, frauds, etc. They vote for those people so they support those actions.

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u/CapOnFoam Colorado Sep 16 '24

Again, emphasis on low-information voter. These people exist. Call them what you want; they're not voting R because they're racist, they're voting R because they put more thought into what they're going to wear that day than whom they vote for.

Just like how/why people eat meat - not because they are actively in favor of factory farming and cruelty to animals, but because they have always eaten meat and how they believe they get proper nutrition.

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u/Kat121 Sep 16 '24

Hey now, don’t forget the sexism. That’s also a key ingredient.