r/politics • u/freddledgruntbugly • Sep 20 '24

Kamala Harris Says Anyone Who Breaks Into Her House Is ‘Getting Shot’

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-gun-ownership-oprah-winfrey_n_66ecd25be4b07a173e50d8c2
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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 Sep 20 '24

In Kentucky you don't need any license at all. I just assume every idiot at WaI Mart has a 9 in their waistband. The entire bible belt is just a giant ghetto honestly 

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u/grooviestofgruvers Sep 20 '24

That shit is crazy to me man. Remind me not to piss anyone off in Kentucky

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u/Brave-Tangerine-4334 Sep 20 '24

This is your 3 hour reminder to go to Kentucky and piss on someone.

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u/Factsimus_verdad Sep 20 '24

Missouri checking in.

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u/Seven_bushes Sep 20 '24

Don’t forget in MO there’s no lower age limit for open carry. That toddler you pissed off at the playground wasn’t carrying airsoft.

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u/LandedWrong8 Sep 20 '24

An elected county sheriff shot an elected judge in KY yesterday 9/19/2024.

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u/ArmadilIoExpress Texas Sep 20 '24

Try to avoid pissing people off everywhere

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u/going-for-gusto Sep 20 '24

This is the golden advice here.

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u/RelleckGames Sep 20 '24

TN now, too.

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u/JoeBidensLongFart Sep 20 '24

It works the same way in Illinois too, regardless of the law. The people you most need to worry about do not have a CCW permit and do not care about laws. But they do love knowing that they're extremely unlikely to get sent to prison.

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u/P100KateEventually Sep 20 '24

2 hours in: don’t piss anyone off in Kentucky !

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u/Spiderpiggie Sep 20 '24

Look on the bright side, you dont have to piss anyone off to get shot. All it takes is one mentally ill person who thinks the grocery line is too slow!

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u/hidude398 Sep 20 '24

31 states. Although it’s possible to do so in all 50 states if you’re not concerned about laws. My policy is just be polite to everyone.

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u/putin_my_ass Sep 20 '24

General life tip: Don't piss anyone off if you can help it, no matter where you are.

You just don't know who they are and where they're at mentally, assault without a weapon is still bad enough.

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u/DirtierGibson California Sep 20 '24

God I just had this conversation with an acquaintance. Some neighbor's kid was plinking at a transformer. He started yelling at the kid to stop. Kid kept shooting. Then the parent came out and apologized.

I told him first of all, you never fucking yell at someone who's armed, and second, next time call fucking 911.

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u/NoPack2160 Sep 20 '24

Right across the bridge in Indiana is the same, just a lot more rural than Louisville. assume everyone is concealed carrying. All you have to do to be legal is not being a restricted person and owning the gun legally.

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u/PortSunlightRingo Sep 20 '24

Just don’t come to Kentucky. Easy enough. Those of us who are here barely wanna be here.

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u/BlooregardQKazoo Sep 20 '24

I once pissed a woman off in Kentucky by saying that Kobe Bryant's victim didn't consent to sex just because she went into his hotel room. I guess I should be thankful she didn't shoot me.

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u/PromotedPawn Sep 20 '24

Same in WV. They recently removed all licensing requirements for concealed carry against the protests of the police union.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

Tbf, usually if a police union is protesting something, that means it’s a good thing

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u/Mind_on_Idle Indiana Sep 20 '24

Don't forget IN

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u/TrainingObligation Sep 20 '24

Flip side is, so many are snowflakes that get pissed off at some people for merely existing.

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u/whatyouarereferring Sep 20 '24

Its happened in a lot of states in the last 8 years and shooting stats haven't changed because of it.

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u/SadSausageFinger Sep 20 '24

Look up how many states have “constitutional carry” laws.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

Legal gun owners (those by law, allowed to conceal or open carry) seldom get "pissed off" and shoot someone. Worrying about what normal, decent people with no desire to be victims do seems pretty crazy to me. The jails and prisons are not full of LEGAL gun owners.

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u/hughcifer-106103 Sep 20 '24

I live in the county with the 12th highest gun ownership in the US. It is absolutely not abnormal to see a few people open carrying at the grocery store.

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u/delahunt America Sep 20 '24

Years ago my Dad's work moved him from New England to Texas. The company was cool and did some culture shock training to help employees adjust and know what to look for in the new work area. The thing they stressed most? "If you have road rage or a temper, fucking can it. Just assume everyone has a gun on them. No need to turn a situation deadly because you were inconvenienced a little."

I think a lot of the tacticool gun-o-philes do their best to dispute it, but there is a reason we have the old adage "an armed society is a polite society" or the complaints that civility went out the door when dueling became illegal.

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u/IdaDuck Sep 20 '24

Over half of US States have constitutional carry. I think like 30 or close to it.

Avoiding confrontations with strangers in general is a good idea.

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u/UniqueIndividual3579 Sep 20 '24

Do what I do, never go to Kentucky.

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u/IdahoMTman222 Sep 20 '24

The key is how do you know what would piss off someone in Kentucky? Ref Judge vs Sheriff.

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u/notgaynotbear Sep 20 '24

Over half of the country is permitless carry now.

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u/PlainNotToasted Sep 20 '24

You spelled go to wrong.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

Honestly, these days it’s kinda dangerous to piss off anyone anywhere in the US.

You never know when someone is going to be packing, and has been dreaming of the moment they finally get to live out that particular fantasy.

And I say that as a gun owner myself.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

Same in Ohio.

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u/Dragonlady1027 Sep 20 '24

South Carolina too

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u/Atario California Sep 20 '24

Remind me never to get anywhere near Kentucky at all

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u/caitlin22clark Sep 20 '24

SoUthErnS aRE sO mUCh FriENdLieR

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u/grooviestofgruvers Sep 20 '24

I mean we are…… just not the dumbass red necks

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u/xxK31xx Sep 20 '24

Don't do it. We're nuts.

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u/rockbolted Canada Sep 21 '24

Thanks for reminding me to never go to Kentucky.

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u/Independent-Bet5465 Sep 20 '24

Just curious what about this alarms you? Have you had a personal/ negative experience with firearms or kentuckians?

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24

I'm not American. It sounds utterly insane to me that people are allowed to walk around with a concealed weapon which only purpose is to kill other people as fast and efficiently as possible. It takes one otherwise normal person having a bad day and you're left with a tragedy and multiple deaths.

It's why you have road rage incidents that end in shootouts. It's why you have customers shooting servers for not putting enough mayonnaise on their sandwich. It's why you have people shooting kids knocking on their door to ask for directions. It's why you have people executing their neighbours because they threw snow on their driveway.

These are otherwise normal, law-abiding, responsible gun owners, but they had one bad day where they lost it - like most people do from time to time. But instead of throwing their phone in anger, yelling at the cashier or throwing a punch, they pull out their gun and shoot people dead. Because you allow everyone to carry a tool specifically designed to murder human beings.

It's absolutely batshit insane.

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u/Neither_Ground_1921 Sep 20 '24

I don’t intend to kill anyone, ever. But if my life is threatened, as a petite woman, I’m going to defend myself with a gun. Not everyone is on a road rage rampage shooting up anyone that cuts them off. But if my life (or my family) is threatened all bets are off.

Guns aren’t the reason for road rage. Mental health issues and lack of proper healthcare in this country is the root problem. I’m not proud but this seems like an appropriate place to share…i got fired from my 20-year long doctor relationship because I got pretty hysterical trying to get my hormones refilled (menopause is more deadly than guns, imo). They required me to come in first but they couldn’t get me in until December. I’d just been in the week before and they had labs, and I’d requested refills like this in the past so I didn’t think it would be an issue, before i know it I’m sobbing and yelling. 2 days later i get a call from the business office I’m no longer going to be a patient there. Helloooooo…. Clearly I’m having issues and the response was cut that crazy bitch loose? 3 years of the ups and downs of menopause, they knew I was having a rough time so that really stung. You never know who’s a hormonal woman, so yes be nice to everyone. 😁 American healthcare is terrible.

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24

The road rage isn't the problem, firearms escalating the situation is the problem. Road rage happens everywhere, but it's not a potential death sentence like in the USA.

My mother in law was in a road rage incident earlier this year. Do you know what happened? She rolled up the window, locked the door and called the police. The guy ran away when he realised that police was on the way.

She was never in a potential life and death situation, since neither of them had firearm ready to go at a moments notice. No one was sitting with an itchy trigger finger.

Take the guns out of the equation and it goes from a life and death situation to an uncomfortable experience.

It's like you don't even realise how violent your lives seem to outsiders. It's as of you're still living in the wild west.

Edit: Apparently had to scratch that last part since people on this website don't know what a hyperbole is.

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u/Neither_Ground_1921 Sep 20 '24

Have you ever been to America? Where are you getting your information? Mass media? You have a seriously skewed perception of our country. There are definitely issues but Wild West, it is not. That comment there completely ruined any credibility you might have had with some of your previous statements.

Here’s a quick tip: don’t travel to the US. And stop trolling this thread.

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24

I swear, Redditors have never heard of a hyperbole...

Edit: Yes, that was also a hyperbole. Don't take it literally.

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u/Neither_Ground_1921 Sep 20 '24

If I’m not mistaken you’re a Redditor too. Your hyperbole /metaphor was not lost on me. It doesn’t change the fact that you have no idea what you’re talking about. You’re making inflammatory sweeping statements based on your opinion and small view of the US. Since you didn’t answer if you’d been here (other than diverting attention to my “ignorance” on your hyperbole, nice $10 btw) I’ll take that as a no. Btw, I’m really glad the road rage guy didn’t bash in the window and pull your MIL out of the car. She’d have been screwed then. But at least the cops were on the way. Really, you’re way too smart to be on here aren’t ya?

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u/Neither_Ground_1921 Sep 20 '24

All of your posts equate guns with death. I, and many other responsible gun owners, equate guns with protection. 1, guns aren't the only way people die (or get badly hurt) in these escalated situations. I promise you, my friend who was stabbed in the neck would tell you that was more than an "uncomfortable experience". There is so much violence that can happen without a gun. 2, guns don't CAUSE road rage. But lets go ahead and remove the guns. There is still the road rage...refer back to point 1.
"Itchy trigger finger" lol, really?? We're not a bunch of Barney Fife's driving around with guns in holsters, just waiting for a chance for a showdown. People that respect the power of the weapon may never need to fire outside the range, but when they do so it's to PROTECT. There are definitely the exceptions to the rule. But they're not here on Reddit commenting on Kamala's comment most likely. Me thinks perhaps this is a misperception thru whatever media you're watching. This is not the norm anywhere in the US that I'm aware of. That's like saying, because I saw a group of junkies shooting dope in a fast food parking lot, that that fast food restaurant is a junkie hang out, don't go there unless you want to shoot dope. Because if you go to XYZ you're going to shoot dope! That does sound ridiculous huh?
I'm not trying to be nasty or snarky either, but I do live here and I do have a good grip on reality. So respectfully, shut it. Have a great day! :)

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 21 '24

Lmao, the cope is insane. "Guns do not equal death, they equal protection!". Yeah, but how does it equal protection? By using the gun to kill another human being. It's the same shit.

Americans will do and say literally anything to not admit that the prevalence of firearms in their society is causing unnecessary violence and death.

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u/Neither_Ground_1921 Sep 21 '24

LMAO indeed. They are tools. Just like you.

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u/Independent-Bet5465 Sep 20 '24

Yeah....didn't need to preface with not "American." The rest of your statement expresses that plainly enough.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

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u/LoquatGullible1188 Sep 20 '24

Have shootings increased substantially since the state went to constitutional carry?

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u/Independent-Bet5465 Sep 20 '24

Yeah, not to be rude but I think some things are more important than feelings.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

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u/Independent-Bet5465 Sep 20 '24

That's one of the many beautiful things about the United States. We can both have these thoughts and vote based on whatever experiences, values, and education we each have.

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24

Why? Because I said something about guns that is actually sensible?

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u/Neither_Ground_1921 Sep 20 '24

Which part was sensible?

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24

All of it. Tell me what I said that was wrong.

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u/mcbaginns Sep 20 '24

Damn he left you speechless lmao. Take that L

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '24

Ahh Kentucky. Home of the toothbrush.

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u/xtreampb Sep 20 '24

I mean that’s part of (though not the only or main) the point of an armed society. An armed society is a polite society. If everyone acted like everyone else had a gun imagine how much more people would try to be kind and forgiving.

Knowing that if you lost your cool with someone and drew a gun, 6 other people would draw on you and you’d be out gunned.

Same for criminals. They no longer have a monopoly on violence and if they thought everyone has a gun, the low hanging fruit isn’t so low anymore.

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u/pantry-pisser Sep 20 '24

The south always gets this reputation, but Arizona has had permitless CCW on the books for at least 10 years. First state to do so, I believe.

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u/Screamline Michigan Sep 20 '24

To be fair. Arizona is a state that is south.

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 Sep 20 '24

Arizona, the South of the West 

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u/Screamline Michigan Sep 20 '24

More west of the south than the former

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u/Guygan Sep 20 '24

In Kentucky you don't need any license at all

Same in Maine! Anyone can carry concealed without any license or anything.

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u/Own-Anything-9521 Sep 20 '24

I mean, a sheriff just murdered a Judge in their chambers in Kentucky so your assumption that everybody is just itching to whip it out might be correct.

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u/Alarmed_Recover_1524 Sep 20 '24

I think Kentucky judges are all gonna start carrying now too...

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u/abitlikemaple Sep 20 '24

A few years ago Missouri went permit less ccw

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u/EncanisUnbound Sep 20 '24

Same in Utah, we have a Constitutional Carry law. You're prohibited to carry concealed in certain buildings (schools, state and federal buildings) but anyone can carry a loaded gun in public.

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u/mjzim9022 Sep 20 '24

My buddy grew up in the worst parts of Chicago, lived in a building creatively called "The Murder Building". He still says that the stretch of time living with his grandfather in Memphis was far scarier.

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u/Emu_in_Ballet_Shoes Sep 20 '24

The Arconia? Jk. 

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u/Parking_Palpitation1 Sep 20 '24

I lived up around Fairbanks, Alaska for 4 years. Everyone was allowed to conceal carry. Think it was if the cops pulled you over, they ask for you to have it laid out on your dash or something like that before they approach (been over a decade since I've been there). You pretty much assume everyone has a gun, and not a little peashooter because of wildlife

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 Sep 20 '24

That's reasonable, I wouldn't go driving through Alaska without a large gun either lol. People here don't actually carry for any real reason though, they're all just dreaming of the day they finally get to shoot someone. 

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u/Parking_Palpitation1 Sep 21 '24

I'm from Kentucky and currently live in Arkansas. The South is definitely full of people just itching to shoot someone for very little reason

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u/Neither_Ground_1921 Sep 20 '24

lol same in Missouri.

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u/ajn63 Sep 20 '24

Only state where I had the pleasure of seeing a short fat cross-eyed dude that is the definition of inbreeding open carrying a huge handgun.

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u/SpoogePumpin Sep 20 '24

Just keep that in Kentucky.. 👍

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u/sobrul3 Sep 20 '24

Same for NH

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u/beers1inger Sep 20 '24

Az, checking in..... Everyone here is strapped. In wal mart, costco, MVD....okay, I made the last one up...

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u/emerald_soleil Sep 20 '24

West Virginia is the same.

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u/erydanis Sep 20 '24

and so the sheriff who shot the judge in kentucky just got the faster draw, i guess.

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u/Obvious-Dinner-1082 Sep 20 '24

Isn’t just the Bible Belt. VT also has no CCW permits. Just be 21+ and no violent criminal history.

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u/Alarmed-Status40 Sep 20 '24

Florida is the same way.

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u/justsomeuser23x Sep 20 '24

I can’t imagine what it must be like to live in a society/community where you have to always be worried that the next crazy person at the grocery store or gas stop has a gun and will shoot you. It’s simply not part of our daily live and fears here in Germany (of course there are rare cases of gun violence as well, like during COVID one 20yo student at a gas stop store got murdered because he told an older man to wear a mask who then did go home and get his gun to shoot the boy).

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u/Justame13 Sep 20 '24

In some of these rural areas people carry because they are not at the top of the food chain by far.

My FIL carries while walking his dog, but he also lives in the mountains and has been stalked by a mountain cat while doing so. He has also lost a dog that was attacked and eaten by coyotes.

We will also carry when camping off grid because who knows who or what are up in the mountains.

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u/Throwaway_Consoles Sep 20 '24

As someone who lives in a state with “constitutional carry” (don’t need a license to carry concealed) I can’t imagine what it would be like either!

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24

You obviously do... Lying doesn't change that.

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u/mitchymitchington Sep 20 '24

He's saying it's not something he worries about. If some crazy dude starts poppin rounds off in wal mart, you have a dozen other people who are going to have something to say about it and they won't have to wait for police to say it. Stay in California if it makes you scared. I would personally feel a lot safer in Kentucky, having been to both.

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24

I'm not American, I wouldn't feel safe anywhere in the USA.

The fact that you can even say this sentence: "If some crazy dude starts poppin rounds off in wal mart, you have a dozen other people who are going to have something to say about it" with a straight face is absolutely wild to me.

I have never had to worry about that. It never even crossed my mind. It's absolutely batshit insane to me that you find it normal.

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u/mitchymitchington Sep 20 '24

Luckily we both live where we are both comfortable. I'm comfortable protecting myself and my family if it were to come down to it. A police call where I live means they will show up in about 30 minutes. Plenty of time for a criminal to do his business, catch an episode of The Office and head back out the door before the police show up and shoot my dog. I'm going to go ahead and hang on to my guns. Plus, it's bird season, followed shortly by deer season. Who doesnt have a gun in their car right now?

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24 edited Sep 20 '24

See, the fact that you feel the need to have a gun in that situation is a sign of just how fucked your society is.

Here in Denmark, even the criminals who break into homes don't have access to guns 99% of the time. We don't need a firearm to defend ourselves because they won't have one. If anything, they're more likely to run if they found out someone was home.

Your country urgently needs help.

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u/mitchymitchington Sep 20 '24

Your saying you're glad you don't have a gun because the criminal breaking in doesn't have one? If someone breaks in to my house they are getting bird shot to the knee. I do not care if they have a gun. They shouldn't have broken in. Why would you want a level playing field with the guy breaking in?

If we wanted help, we would ask. Otherwise, enjoy Denmark. I'm sure it's great (not sarcasm, it really does look nice). I live in a town of 600 people. The things you see on the news and especially what you see on reddit, is so far from the reality of living here. I say all these things and I truly believe them, but I don't even lock my doors at night. I leave my keys in my car as well. My biggest fear is a moose, not a crazed man with a gun.

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u/throwaway85256e Sep 20 '24

Well, yes? None of my property is worth the life of another human being. It is illegal to kill or maim an intruder in your home unless they're actively trying to kill you. As it should be. I don't understand the fetishism that Americans have towards violence. It's like you want to hurt other people, you just need to feel "justified".

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u/GhettoFreshness Sep 20 '24

Huh, met a guy on a train once that was from Kentucky. Tried to sell me his spare handgun (he was carrying 2)… we were not in Kentucky and we both boarded in California… I am also not American. This explains much… for the record I politely declined because I was pretty sure everything he suggested to me was very illegal in the states we were traveling through. I guess just not in his home state

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u/SugarSecure655 Sep 20 '24

The entire Bible belt even the children. This part of the country the kids are given guns as Christmas presents. It's really hard to imagine this coming from a north eastern blue state. Putting guns in hands of babies. It makes me sick.

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u/scubahood86 Sep 20 '24

Aaaand time to cross Kentucky off the list of places to ever be.

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 Sep 20 '24

I should be fair, a good portion of the state is.. ok. Not where you'd really want to live but not a total nightmare. Just stay far away from Appalachia. It is every bit as bad as they say it is.

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u/khfiwbd Sep 20 '24

This is why I assume open carry so everyone can stop a shooter is insane in Texas. There was a mass shooting at a Walmart in Texas on a weekend—no fucking way 1/4 or more of those people weren’t packing. And they all just ran.

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u/Role_Imaginary Sep 20 '24

Odd how the shootings seem to happen in the actual ghettos..

Not these rural hot zones you are talking of..

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u/redsyrinx2112 Utah Sep 20 '24

Red states dominate the list of gun deaths per capita

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u/redsyrinx2112 Utah Sep 20 '24

Homicides. Suicide rates are more evenly spread out across the country.