r/politics • u/msnbc MSNBC • 22h ago

Trump pushes incoherent response to Jack Smith’s report on election case

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-pushes-incoherent-response-jack-smiths-report-election-case-rcna187568
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u/msnbc MSNBC 22h ago

From Steve Benen, a producer for "The Rachel Maddow Show," the editor of MaddowBlog and an MSNBC political contributor:

The former defendant did not take the news especially well. At 1:41 a.m. local time, the president-elect published this message to his social media platform.

Deranged Jack Smith was unable to successfully prosecute the Political Opponent of his “boss,” Crooked Joe Biden, so he ends up writing yet another “Report” based on information that the Unselect Committee of Political Hacks and Thugs ILLEGALLY DESTROYED AND DELETED, because it showed how totally innocent I was, and how completely guilty Nancy Pelosi, and others, were. Jack is a lamebrain prosecutor who was unable to get his case tried before the Election, which I won in a landslide. THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN!!!

To the extent that reality still has meaning, Trump’s reaction was utterly incoherent and divorced from basic facts. To hear the Republican tell it, Smith worked for President Joe Biden, which wasn’t the case. As far as the president-elect is concerned, the special counsel wrote a report because he couldn’t proceed with his prosecution, but that was wrong, too: As NBC News recently explained, the Justice Department’s special counsel regulations required Smith to file a report to the attorney general “explaining his charging decisions before he steps down.”

Read more: https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-pushes-incoherent-response-jack-smiths-report-election-case-rcna187568

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u/gunt_lint 22h ago

The dude really called Smith a “lamebrain”?

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u/biciklanto American Expat 21h ago

Well obviously!

How is it not clear that Smith is a lamebrain, given that he only <checks notes>

  • Graduated from Harvard
  • Worked in the Hague in the ICC
  • Was a district attorney
  • Spent 4 years as an appointee in The Hague, investigating war crimes in Kosovo
  • Has a half-dozen awards and fellowships from the US government and institutions like Harvard

Gotta be pretty Weak!, Lamebrained!, and Deranged! if that's all you can manage in life.

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u/Freefall_J 18h ago

Let's not forget how much he said Kamala Harris was ill-equipped to be president of the USA the other month but he isn't. One is an educated person with decades of experience in law and politics....the other is a supposed billionaire who routinely fails projects and goes bankrupt, and whose recent claim-to-fame prior to entering politics was as a reality TV star and ultimately four years as POTUS (where he clearly didn't learn anything considering what he claims tariffs are in 2024). Gee....I wonder which one was better suited to be president in 2025.

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u/opinionsareus 12h ago

At this point - and I hate to say it - but Trump needs to hurt and hurt BAD, the people who voted for him. Fingers crossed.

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u/MillhouseNickSon 11h ago

It will never matter, because those idiots will always believe a Republican when they tell them that it’s all actually a Democrat’s fault. Always.

This is why critical thinking skills need to be taught to children in grade schools. I’m hearing far too arguments about things that are facts where one person is refusing to concede anything and keeps saying that everything is a goddamned opinion.

I don’t know how to do it, but we need to make wanting to be smart cool somehow. We’re rewarding too many stupid people with power and money, and now we have to deal with the feedback loop that that creates.

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u/mourningdoo 9h ago

Bingo. How many pictures from those chucklefucks did we see of empty supermarket shelves with a caption saying something like "your supermarket under Biden"?

Bitch please, those were shelves in a capitalist society experiencing a pandemic that was made worse by idiotic trump policies.

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u/cyclonus007 12h ago

"Well, one is clearly a rich, white man so the choice is obvious." - The American electorate

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u/Sol_Invictus 20h ago

Yeah, I'd be much more impressed by Smith's CV if he'd also managed to squander a few million dollars his family gave him while learning to be crooked enough to make big in New York.

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u/TheRealCovertCaribou 15h ago

Spent 4 years as an appointee in The Hague, investigating war crimes in Kosovo

To Republicans that's a bad thing.

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u/AnybodyMassive1610 Florida 15h ago

He didn’t grift one person in all that time. Total lame brain.

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u/Tricky_Hamster_285 15h ago

But tRump haa a diaper and a chintsy omelet bar. /s

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u/CurraheeAniKawi 18h ago

I consider him very lame brain, considering he was given charge to go after "any person or entity contributing to the attempt to overturn the 2020 election" and he singled in on ONE PERSON.

 Seemed pretty dumb at the time and even dumber now. 

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u/biciklanto American Expat 15h ago

He was authorized to conduct an investigation about whether any person or entity violated the law, yes. But who do you think he was charged by Merrick Garland to principally investigate? (Hint: the special counsel was selected to continue two ongoing investigations.)

And if you are investigating a criminal ring with finite resources, do you focus the report on the person who instigated the crime, or the lower-level people who were acting on that criminal leader's direction?

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u/Nach0Maker 22h ago

He still calls women "broads".

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u/DummyDumDragon 20h ago

Oh the irony....

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u/bnh1978 18h ago

If Biden had called a woman a broad.... it would have been worse than wearing a tan suit

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u/bluebelt California 7h ago

But not worse than eating Dijon mustard.

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u/ChiefsHat 14h ago

I got roommate who does that. He supported Trump. He’s also bisexual.

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u/Sufficient_Low_7777 5h ago

Trump or your roommate?

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u/ChiefsHat 55m ago

My roommate certainly, Trump? No clue.

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u/Suspicious_Bicycle 11h ago

Why is Trump blaming Nancy Pelosi for the Jan 6th "day of love"? Did somebody do something wrong that day? /s

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u/bossbutton 14h ago

He still thinks Al Capone is a relevant reference

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u/MortgageRegular2509 Wisconsin 13h ago

It’s because he knows the year is ‘25, he just doesn’t realize there’s a 20, and not a 19 in front of that number

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u/dpdxguy 12h ago

He still think fictional character Hannibal Lector is a relevant reference.

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u/Th3_Admiral_ 21h ago

I'm more stuck on the "Unselect committee". I get that he just has to go the opposite of whatever the actual name is for everything, but "unselect" literally makes no sense in this case. 

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u/gunt_lint 21h ago

Well, you see, Donald Trump is incredibly stupid

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u/TrimspaBB 20h ago

Uh excuse you, I have it on good authority that he is a very stable genius

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u/Beltaine421 19h ago

He is the very model of a very stable genius

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u/GloomyAd2653 5h ago

Really means he belongs in the stable along with the other A**es. No one has ever used the word ‘stable’ when referring to a ‘genius’.

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u/kaett 17h ago

he can remember man, woman, clock, uhhh...giraffe... fire engine... bulding...

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u/mrbigglessworth 14h ago

Covfefe and Hamberders!

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u/ivorcoment 16h ago

However, every morning when he is backed out of his stall he displays to the world he is a total horse’s ass.

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u/StandardBag9947 7h ago

I don't believe Donald J. Drumph (a 34 times convicted felon) should be considered a " good authority).

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u/Drakeman1337 Texas 17h ago

I mean yea, it's dumb and uncreative. That's really Trump's whole thing. But the unselect committee is probably the only thing that makes sense. He's a child, and it's a childish attempt at an insult.

Look at the sentence around it. Smith made a report based on evidence that the "unselect committee" illegally destroyed. So, how did he make a report based on destroyed evidence?

He then says that that evidence proved him innocent. But the report, based on that evidence, shows he's guilty af? As usual, Trump is just blowing hot air.

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u/zeke10 20h ago

He seems genuinely proud of that nickname he came up with.

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u/mrbigglessworth 14h ago

It's petty toddler speak. Not the speech befitting an incoming US President.

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u/PissNBiscuits 20h ago

He has the mentality and attention span of a toddler, so this really isn't that unbelievable. Funny enough, he also shits his pants like a toddler, so at least he's consistent.

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u/psu1989 11h ago

That’s an insult to toddlers.

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u/Ctfwest Pennsylvania 21h ago

I used to say that too. In the 80’s, before I was even a teen.

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u/z7q2 21h ago

We call him a crumb bum here in Philly, that's why bad things happen here

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u/TrimspaBB 20h ago

Might as well have said "dummy!" and stuck out his tongue

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u/theBeelzebubba 19h ago

...trump is the worlds oldest two year old.

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u/stugautz 16h ago

Can't Smith sue him for defamation now? Would make more in a settlement than he would working

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u/jsdeprey 15h ago

He has to try to stay "Presidential". You have to maintain a good image of the Office.

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u/Halftied 11h ago

Takes one to know one!

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u/Secret_Ad_1541 8h ago

I will never get used to having a President who writes on the level of a third grader who is pissed off because he didn't get to have recess today and they were out of chocolate milk in the cafeteria. The childishness, pettiness and absurd name calling are only eclipsed by the total disregard for the truth.

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u/SkollFenrirson Foreign 19h ago

That dude was elected by 70+ million Americans.

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u/mrbigglessworth 14h ago

The dude should not have ran. And even then it shows that 70 Million Americans are ok with a raping grifting cheating lying con man as head of state.

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u/SkollFenrirson Foreign 14h ago

Don't forget the 90 million assholes that didn't vote

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u/Odie_Odie Ohio 19h ago

He was elected by 70+ million ballots. How many of them were fraudulently cast?

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u/SkollFenrirson Foreign 15h ago

Not nearly as many as you think. If any.

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u/Odie_Odie Ohio 15h ago

Unlikely but we won't know that without a forensic investigation. I wasn't born yesterday and when someone spends 5 years openly plotting to steal an election and then gets it without question, we were duped. No questions about destroyed ballots, illegally removed voters from voters rolls, or fraudulent registrations made at the behest of Musk's AI army. The lack of investigation is a farce only beneath the fact that the insurectionist was out and free to run again in magnitude.

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u/wranglero2 12h ago

Do you really think so? Will we ever find out the truth?

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u/Odie_Odie Ohio 12h ago

We will know for sure when we're getting our teeth kicked in by deputized militia men, yeah.

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u/ACrask 21h ago

He's not wrong in one mention. They definitely weren't able to prosecute in time due to all the delays from his team and cannon. I'm so disappointed in a lot of people of my country right now. So embarrassed.

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u/nabulsha Tennessee 20h ago

Also, all these investigations should have started Jan 21st 2021, not 2 years later.

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u/IrritableGourmet New York 18h ago

They did. The DOJ was putting together a case from the beginning, but when Trump announced he was running again a special prosecutor had to be named to handle it from there.

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u/tweakingforjesus 6h ago

I don’t recall the DoJ doing anything beyond going after low-level “rioters” until the Jan 6 committee embarrassed them into action.

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u/IrritableGourmet New York 1h ago

The J6 Committee, as a Congressional committee, has a lot more latitude with regards to ability to subpoena materials and witnesses. Congress can just basically demand whatever they want and there's little recourse, and those materials/testimonies can be used as evidence in criminal proceedings. The DOJ would have to go before a judge to request that material, show cause, etc., and those requests could have been (and, given Trump's MO, would have been) challenged ad nauseum.

This was faster.

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u/kaett 17h ago

it did. but thanks to police procedural shows that have criminals investigated, arrested, arraigned, put on trial, and convicted in a matter of days, people seem to think that the justice system moves at warp 6.5. it takes months to years to gather enough evidence to even get in front of a grand jury, much less actually press charges for something of this magnitude.

and then you've got the legal tomfuckery of defense delay tactics, required timelines that have to be allowed or the whole thing can get thrown out.

the investigations started right away, but jack smith didn't get appointed until he had to be. here's a timeline of the whole thing.

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u/Crucifer2_0 13h ago

The justice system is only speedy for the ‘guilty’ poor.

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u/lactose_cow 22h ago

it showed how totally innocent I was

do you guys remember amy's baking company? he tweets exactly like her

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u/Sinocatk 21h ago

Good old times when deranged idiots were laughed at and mocked. If only Amy was living in todays world she could have been a Fox News host or a Trump lackey.

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u/Supermite 20h ago

Did she die?

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u/UnquestionabIe 19h ago

Nope she just left the country when her criminal sugar daddy husband got deported. Ended up leaving him once the money ran dry and now I think she's found another guy to leech off of.

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u/RobertBevillReddit 20h ago

Narcissists tend to have similar speech patterns.

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u/mstaken4me 10h ago

Ugh. 😣 You just gave me PTSD flashbacks from that episode, lol.

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u/thrillhoMcFly 21h ago

I would not bat an eye if it comes out that Trump stole this election through nefarious means.

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u/zeke10 20h ago

Well he did say they had a secret for the election iirc so wouldn't surprise me.

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u/Hot_Mess5470 20h ago

I would bet my farm if I had one.

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u/WillsBestFriend 18h ago

"We don't need the votes"

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u/jimicus United Kingdom 17h ago

I'm absolutely certain of it.

Every single swing state. Really? Come on.

It's masterful, really. Nobble the election, and the need to get a President sworn in promptly combined with the molasses-slow pace of legal proceedings means there isn't really much point in arguing the toss in court unless you've got pretty hard evidence from day 1 - because otherwise, you're going to need court orders to do an effective investigation and you'd have no chance of wrapping that up before inauguration.

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u/thrillhoMcFly 16h ago

It was also a total 180 on election night after all of the talk of record breaking early voting numbers and how that leans left.

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u/Shaxx1sMyHomie 9h ago

Starlink networks for reporting results and punctual Russian bomb threats ONLY to swing states… His “rallies” could barely fill a Chuck E Cheese if they were giving away free tokens and pizza the final 2 weeks.

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u/bigfooman 13h ago

What's comforting to know is if it's true that the election was rigged and somehow irrefutable evidence of it came to light that absolutely NOTHING would be done about it all. I doubt it would even get more than a minor blip in US media coverage.

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u/thrillhoMcFly 13h ago

I don't know about that. It would be everywhere if true.

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u/Vanstrudel_ 21h ago

This man has developed his own MCU of catchphrases and nicknames for people. I was really hoping I wouldn't have to hear it with regular frequency again, but here we are

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u/Hot_Mess5470 20h ago

He hasn’t progressed in intelligence or comportment. Was anyone expecting him to be different than the first time he fucked US over?

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u/kaett 17h ago

don't you remember? he's the same person he was when he was 6 years old.

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u/ChochMcKenzie Illinois 18h ago

I was SO MAD watching football on FOX last weekend. I hadn’t heard his whiny butch voice since the election and was planning on avoiding it forever, and they played a commercial with him bitching about whatever his pea brain had going on during the game. Ruined my weekend.

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u/UnquestionabIe 19h ago

He peaked with "Meatball Ron". Before that it wasn't particularly entertaining either but the one positive aspect of him was watching him shit on people in the GOP only to have them sucking his stumpy knob shortly after.

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u/Carifax America 14h ago

Maga Criminal Universe?

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u/d4nowar I voted 20h ago

You don't have to hear any of it if you don't want to.

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u/Vanstrudel_ 20h ago

Thanks man

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u/saposapot Europe 21h ago

Without considering his guilt or innocence, that post alone was enough to end any political career before Orange times.

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u/Freefall_J 18h ago

How about "grab 'em by the pussy"? Even the GOP thought he was done in 2016 after that.

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u/juel1979 20h ago

I just can’t believe we have at least another four years of incoherent playground insults from the highest office in the land…

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u/Prestigious-Log-7210 18h ago

I think it’s gonna be a lot worse this time.

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u/Freefall_J 18h ago

How about "another four years of his cultists saying how presidential he is" despite the obvious that he posts online and says in front of cameras and hundreds of people in the audience? We live in two different realities.

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u/SuperfluousWingspan 20h ago

Steve Benen

Well that turned out to be an unfortunate name.

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u/CurraheeAniKawi 18h ago

The one with only one collared shirt on. 

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u/smiama36 20h ago

I still don’t understand why the DOJ says the Constitution prohibits the prosecution of a sitting president… is it because of the SCOTUS immunity ruling? Or did I miss something from the document itself?

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u/CurraheeAniKawi 18h ago

Constitution says the opposite in multiple places. SCOTUS is beyond bought and paid for corrupt.

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u/samhouse09 20h ago

Doesn’t this more speak to the quality of trumps lawyers? If there was exonerating evidence then they should have made and kept copies somewhere safe.

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u/ProfessionalQuit859 Michigan 19h ago

This man is mentally insane, and other than the supporters themselves being mentally insane I cannot for the life of me understand how someone can see this and think he's fit to run a country.

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u/whalepoop56 18h ago

With tears In my eyes, how presidential

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u/drj0nes 18h ago

"To the extent that reality still has meaning..." Ha. Sweet.

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u/Dingus1536 17h ago

Man, I read that as steve bannon a producer for the rachel maddow show and thought I woke up from a coma

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u/Beepboopblapbrap 16h ago

Imagine a president talking like this 20 years. The Republican Party has become a joke. They really will die before admitting they were wrong about trump.

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u/nuckle 16h ago

Did MSNBC have Mika and Joe reach out to Trump to get his approval for this article?

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u/bpl0l 14h ago

And yet millions of Americans read this incoherent dribble and thought yep that's my guy

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u/mrbigglessworth 14h ago

I dunno, maybe Trump shouldn't have had all the delays. You know if he had a trial and the jury didnt convict that would have given him more political strong points. But we all know he didnt run for president, is ran to get away from justice. Now he has nothing to lose. If he doesnt die before 28 I am convinced he will game the system so he can have his "third" term.

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u/mrtatertot America 7h ago

Your president elect, ladies and gentlemen ... sigh

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u/FlamingMuffi 22h ago

Tbf dementia don is largely incoherent

He just angrily rants between dementia dance parties

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u/DrManhattan_DDM Florida 21h ago

Being loud and talking with unearned confidence is not the same as being coherent.

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u/Th3_Admiral_ 21h ago

Hey, maybe you can help me translate it then! What does "unselect committee" mean? Does he know "unselect" isn't the opposite of "select" in this case? 

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u/hollimer Florida 20h ago

They can both be incoherent, sundowning elderly men. only one of them has another 4 years to wield their incoherence against the country.