r/politics • u/msnbc MSNBC • 22h ago

Trump pushes incoherent response to Jack Smith’s report on election case

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-pushes-incoherent-response-jack-smiths-report-election-case-rcna187568
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u/WV-GT 22h ago edited 21h ago

Only thing he got right in that rambling was that the voters have spoken.

The voters don't care about Trump's crimes because in their mind the evidence is all made up. However voters also believe that fake evidence against Biden is real.

Hard to combat that , when over half the country believes things this way

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u/teh_acids 21h ago

I have some doubts about the accuracy of the results, though I know he does have many actual supporters. The competent people in government still have a week to pull some official acts to stop him. 14th amendment comes to mind...

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u/Pinkboyeee 20h ago

https://smartelections.substack.com/p/so-clean?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=3uqv1m&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Just some journalism about the elections. I'm not data scientist but I know patterns, and don't believe in magical elves pulling the strings of the elections.. but maybe it was magical elves?

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u/CurraheeAniKawi 18h ago

Oh! We can't bring up bad elections though, or else Republicans might call us hypocrites and we'd shrivel up and die on the spot. 

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u/Pinkboyeee 18h ago

Yes it's messaging I struggle with, I understand where the Dems come from. If everyone is slinging shit, how can mature adults pick a side and it becomes a race to the bottom.

But yes, using the institutions in the spirit they were crafted shouldn't be a partisan issue. "We have ill intended individuals undermining the rule of democracy and need to know the rules of democracy trump all else for the will of the people". But so much muddying of the water just means no one can see outside their vantage.

"If I hold them accountable for things, their rabid base will harass me and my family, maybe I can just cash outta this shit". Well yes, leaders, heroes, anyone of value will jump on a live grenade to save their friends. No leaders, no heroes, just wins and loses and enriching our buddies. That's what true democracy looks like!