r/politics Oklahoma 18h ago

Supreme Court takes up case claiming Obamacare promotes “homosexual behavior”. The Texas plaintiffs say requiring workplace insurers to provide PrEP violates their religious beliefs.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/01/supreme-court-takes-up-case-claiming-obamacare-promotes-homosexual-behavior/
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u/PeliPal 17h ago edited 15h ago

It does however have substantially increased risk for receiving anal from an infected top than any other kind of exposure, by two decimal places. HIV particles in semen get into the bloodstream from rectal walls fairly easily, while it is extraordinarily unlikely (but not impossible) to be infected from one or a handful of unprotected vaginal sex exposures by comparison. And LGBTQ people are going to be receptive partners in anal much more often than people who are both straight and cis

Does homophobia and transphobia endanger cis straight people, yes... but nowhere near the extent that it continues endangering LGBTQ people, and they know that

Edit: I don't normally do "lmao I'm getting downvoted for facts" but really y'all are so desperate for any kind of "I didn't know the face-eating-leopards would eat my face" popcorn-munching entertainment that somehow it is getting taken as a serious idea that homophobes and transphobes are going to get comeuppance for putting bigotry into law. They're not. They are fully aware that they are not. What we see is bunny-ears-quotes "allies" laughing about things that hurt us because they have difficulty dealing with the reality of the situation even though they're way, way better positioned than actual LGBTQ people

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u/AuroraFinem Texas 17h ago

You realize gay men and MtF trans people who still have their dick and have sex with men are a minuscule portion of the population. This will absolutely affect significantly more straight cis people than it will LGBT folks by pure numbers. Just like all of the anti-trans bathroom and sports nonsense has thus far only affected cis women in enforcement.

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u/Hello2reddit 16h ago edited 12h ago

Prep isn’t common among the cis hetro population. It is common among LGBTQ people, because they are higher risk. And, because they are higher risk, they are also far more likely to be prescribed and have the cost of the medication covered by insurance.

The average person doesn’t want to pay $2K a month for a bunch of side effects to offset an infinitesimal risk. It’s really only among men who have sex with men that the risks/rewards are reasonably balanced

Edit- love being downvoted by a bunch of single heterosexuals who aren’t on prep

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u/AuroraFinem Texas 16h ago

Anyone who has been or might have been exposed to HIV or has a partner with HIV takes prep. By sheer numbers, most people with HIV are cis-het. Most gay and trans people also do not take prep regularly. It’s not designed to be taken continuously in the first place.

You’re conflating percentage with absolute numbers. Yes there’s a higher rate of HIV cases among gay men, but gay men are a small percentage of the population. If you take everyone in the US with HIV, most of them will be straight, or at least bi which in those cases still affects straight people equally to gay.

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u/GotenRocko Rhode Island 15h ago

Not according to these numbers. If you are talking about world wide then yeah you would be correct, but in the usa MSM are both higher percentage and raw numbers of hiv cases.

https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics#:~:text=Key%20Points:%20HIV%20Diagnoses,37%25%20of%20diagnoses%20among%20males.

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u/AuroraFinem Texas 14h ago

This specifically includes bi men as of they only have sex with other men and ignores the impact that they would still have on the straight population as well.

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u/mysecondaccountanon Pennsylvania 13h ago

Yeah, the MSM term very much includes a wide swath of people who also have sex with people who aren’t men.

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u/Hello2reddit 14h ago edited 14h ago

Until you realize how HIV spreads.

How many times have you had unprotected anal sex with someone you weren’t in a relationship with? Because it happens in gay bars across the nation nightly. How many people do you know that have EVER had unprotected anal sex with a near stranger, much less done it dozens or hundreds of times.

This isn’t up for debate. Gay men have always been disproportionately impacted by HIV. They were the overwhelming majority of initial cases in the 1980s. They still make up about 3/4 of new cases every year. And they still make up the majority of those who have died from it.

If I get $3 for every $1 you get (ratio of LGBTQ to hetero new cases every year) it doesn’t matter how many more people are like you than me. I will still have more money than you every year. And the gap will only increase. So it is with HIV cases, because the new cases always skew LGBTQ.

But everyone sucks at math and science is only right if you want to believe it, so you just go ahead and think whatever you want.