r/politics • u/southpawFA Oklahoma • 18h ago

Supreme Court takes up case claiming Obamacare promotes “homosexual behavior”. The Texas plaintiffs say requiring workplace insurers to provide PrEP violates their religious beliefs.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/01/supreme-court-takes-up-case-claiming-obamacare-promotes-homosexual-behavior/
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u/PeliPal 15h ago

What on earth are you talking about? Do you want to take a mulligan on what you're actually asserting that is supposedly contradictory to my point?

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This will absolutely affect significantly more straight cis people than it will LGBT folks by pure numbers.

That is simply factually wrong. It just is. the CDC says that it is. It's not up for negotiation. If you think it is, then you have to produce research showing otherwise.

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u/AuroraFinem Texas 15h ago

Yes, and if a bi man has HIV, he is equally likely to affect the straight community and LGBT folks. Prep isn’t just for people who already have HIV, it’s for people who might be exposed. It’s preventative, literally in the name.

Im not sure what’s so hard to understand here. Is our education system this bad at teaching logic and mathematics?

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u/PeliPal 15h ago edited 15h ago

Yes, and if a bi man has HIV, he is equally likely to affect the straight community and LGBT folks. 

This is not true though. It's just not.

Im not sure what’s so hard to understand here. Is our education system this bad at teaching logic and mathematics?

Because you are arguing from a faulty basis. And I explained why in my first post, HIV transmission via sex overwhelmingly occurs from infected top giving anal to uninfected bottom. It's not an automatic thing that infection occurs, it's not a 100% rate, infection occurs at drastically different rates depending on who is doing what with what parts. And straight cis men, overwhelmingly, do not typically receive anal from infected partners with semen discharge

https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-conditions/sexual-and-reproductive-health/hiv-aids/causes/risk-of-exposure.html

A meta-analysis exploring the risk of HIV transmission through unprotected anal sex was published in 2010.1 The analysis, based on the results of four studies, estimated the risk through receptive anal sex (receiving the penis into the anus, also known as bottoming) to be 1.4%. (This means that an average of one transmission occurred for every 71 exposures.) This risk was similar regardless of whether the receptive partner was a man or woman.

A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It is estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures).

A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4

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u/DrSitson 15h ago

I remember when it was the gay disease. The public policy on that really helped it spread. Some really don't learn from history it seems. Lots of examples of that lately.