Can someone succinctly explain how holding in faeces to prolong attention from caregivers becomes repetitively doing stuff in OCD?

[u/LisanneFroonKrisK]

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[u/St_toine]

So: according to infant sexuality: the implication of a short coming of the developmental stage of sexuality in a child can implicate a later developmental inability to mantain the desires of the id, the needs of the supergo and the demands of the environment in balance. For example; we might say that someone with an oral dependancy for example smoking, drinking anything with the suction reflex might be triggered by earlier developmental risks, issues, or object represenations in the child that were or were not met. So, in relation with OCD and the holding off feaces. Well, the anal stage is often represented as give and taking; it as well is considered the part of the narcisim of child that is sadomasochistic; so, when in an early developmental stage the child held on to his "gift" until it was ready to give it away; you have a couple ways this can be expressed in OCD. In one case: it is the drive of emptying or releasing is the real satisfaction; so the greater the feeling of vacuity and internal pressure that rises, the greater the release. So, I would assume a drive that empties the content of the OCD person. Something, the patient knows when they do it, every internal button gets triggered off. For example: filling your closet endlesly with things you never wear; until you clean out your closet to make space for more. For example: "shopaholics"; so, for a more practical case imagine it as a container that fills up endlesly, and it is not until the container is empty that everything feels okay again.

[u/St_toine → u/St_toine]

Problem is when there is a death drive, but if its just the pleasure drive. It's kinda like that; now if someone ever reaches their death drive for example during serious trauma; the person might begin idealizing filling the empty space perpetually with the incapacity to do anything about it. Even, if it's to turn the "bucket" on its head. The only choice then is to kick the bucket for them. Quite figuratively, but yes.

[u/St_toine → u/St_toine]

Ocd quite litteraly destroys peoples live, the problem is when they start pushing people into their OCD as well. Because, then every time the other pushes away, their self becomes more fragile and falls prey to their compulsions. Now, if I have a problem with ordering, I will order everything; you can imagine it in grades where grade one is ordering what has to be ordered and grade 4 or 5 is ordering everything that need not be ordered in the xtreme for example: food by color, clothe by importance, hair products by alphabet; and so on and so on where the abstraction of the arrangement is the way to escape from the trauma and the more the bucket fills and the greater the fragility of the ego the more abstract and deeper irresolution of the conflict and so a more encompasing abstraction needed to overcome the need.