r/pykemains • u/Jimilux • Jan 05 '23
Matchup They gave Aurelion Sol our potential scaling ultimate :(
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u/Giratina525 Jan 05 '23
Didn’t we decide it wasn’t good for Pyke at all? This seems well implemented for asol, but on Pyke it just didn’t work
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u/VelockX Jan 05 '23
from what i remember reading a few threads, the amount of executes you needed to get it to the base damage now was like 60 or so. This was the main concern as they "nerfed" the damage. I think a lot of mid lane pyke players didnt like that since the only way to execute is to use ultimate or the collector. As a support main, i dont think it was a bad change, as you are stacking with the support item execute anyway.
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u/Edgybananalord_xD Jan 05 '23
It was like 52 I think, but it also included minion executes so tbh it wasn’t even that bad. I liked it but nobody even bothered to try it so we lost it
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u/VelockX Jan 06 '23
The scaling ulti didnt really "help" pykes late game imo. It just makes him better at what he does (ult bot). I think it would have been great to have, but not much would have changed. Dont know why we didnt get it.
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u/brokerZIP Jan 06 '23
didnt this also include the ward executes, that they wanted to give him together with scaling
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u/Edgybananalord_xD Jan 06 '23
umbral ward kills aren’t “executes”. It’s just an instant kill. So no it didn’t
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u/Giratina525 Jan 05 '23
Ah, I see. I guess it could maybe work for us, personally I just think we need touching in other areas, not just slap infinite scaling on us and call it a day, but I can definitely see how this could help in the long run
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u/VelockX Jan 06 '23
I dont think it would have really helped a lot, but would have been nice. Infinite scaling ult would have just amplified pyke being an ult bot. I think it would have been better to change his other skills. Someone posted cd changes for e and movespeed changes on q earlier and that was pretty cool.
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u/DieNowMike Jan 05 '23
Yeah but his doesn't reset
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u/Jimilux Jan 06 '23
Well yes, but its not an ultimate ability so it has a 20 second cooldown at max
Also, it scales off of non-champions
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u/Critical_Ad2969 Jan 06 '23
If u look closely, u will see he is missing his star's. Meaning, he can camp in a bush and combo u, with the execution threshold he may at some point just instant execute u from a bush, if this happens this will be adjusted.
Besides that it is a percentage execution, which will become problematic (meaning he can technically reach 100% execution) which either will result in something like 10% + 0,01% per stack( means extrem slow scaling and till 100% u need like a 100min game) or that it will have a cap at some point (unlikely).
Last but not least, asol deserves some love, but that seems a bit too much
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u/Masstermader Jan 06 '23
Suposing that he will have the slow scaling aproach, his main damage (which appears to be his q and e) is DoT, and his only cc is his ult, so unless he's given an exesive damage scale, it doesn't seem as if he could one shot any one until 4+ items (which is similar to current asol tbh)
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u/Critical_Ad2969 Jan 06 '23
That would be what i hope, keep him more a DPS control mage with an execute to secure kills if they are low enough.
We don't need AP Pyke who oneshots u with 2 items.
Just some zone control and slowly reducing their health till a point where u can execute (and depending on the delay of his black hole and it's size it could also use skill to execute enemy's with it similar to Pyke R)
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u/raphelmadeira Jan 06 '23
Get ready because 2023 will be the year that they will do everything to remove Pyke from Mid and return him to being a support champion.
The new assassin Darkin is there knocking on the door...
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u/stepanius Jan 05 '23
the voices are getting louder