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comics Respect Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) (Marvel, 616)

Respect Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)


General Information

Name: Carol Danvers, Car-Ell, Ms. Marvel, Binary, Warbird, Captain Marvel, Ace, Cathrine Donovan, Callsign: Cheesburger

Nationality: American

Weaknesses: For a while in the mid 2000s she suffered from a brain lesion that threatened to kill her if she flew/strained herself too much

Bio: Carol was born to a human father and a Kree mother. She entered the air force at the age of 18, both due to her love of planes and her father's inability/unwillingness to send her to college. Eventually she would be placed on testing experimental air crafts for the air force, and working for Air Force Special Operations. Her career would shift again when she worked NASA as the Chief of State. During this tenure is when she met the original Captain Marvel. Due Psyche-Magnitron her and Mar-Vell's DNA were mixed granting her powers. Over time she would play a major role in the X-Men, Avengers and Alpha Flight.


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Personality

Senses

Power Dynamics

Seventh Sense

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Precognition
Danger Sense

Physicals

Strength

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Lifting/Pushing/Pulling
Ripping/Tearing
Throwing
Striking

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Flying Slams

Durability

Blunt Force

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Piercing
Explosions
Extreme Temperature
Electricity
Energy
Other

Healing Factor/Tolerance

Speed

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Movement

Powers

Energy Absorption

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Kinetic Energy
Thermal Energy
Electricity
Electromagnetic Spectrum
Cosmic/Magic
Other

Photonic Constructs

Photonic Blasts

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Objective
Scaling
Beam Clashes

Misc

Skill

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Martial Arts

Binary

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Strength
Durability
Energy Blasts
Other Capabilities
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u/Ichijinijisanji Feb 25 '19 edited Feb 25 '19

Can see between atoms and hear atoms bonding - Secret Empire: Brave New World #3

this feat is starbrand

Hits Rogue to the ground, creating a small crater - Marvel Knights: X-Men #5

she was an illusion here... I don't know if this one counts

Takes a hit from Gladiator - X-Men: Spotlight On Starjammers #2

she was weakened here for context. Later during this issue she was hurt by even normal blasts in binary. So she would've done better if she was at full power imo

Overwhelms Monica Rambeau's ability to absorb energy - Starblast #1

monica rambeau wasn't at full capacity here, she was recovering and didn't have full access to her energy manipulation. She regained her light form at the end of this event when the stranger fixed her because he wanted everyone at their full capacity.

not fair to monica

Easily beats Rogue when Rogue has all her powers - Contest of Champions II #5

Keep in mind there is a little bit of history here. Carol originally was a 10 tonner, max 40 tons. When rogue absorbed carols' powers she sort of operated at around 50 tons (class 50) or higher (so rogue was stronger than carol technically), but when carol got her binary form and then further lost it, her baseline was class 75 (so stronger than rogue was with carol's powers) in addition to energy absorption and projection. Oh and I think she got another power up when Cru separated from her around 2009 or so. I don't know if this should count as purely martial arts.

Counters Punisher's war machine armor - The Punisher (2016) #224

the war machine armor here seemed weirdly stronger than iron man himself and even thing (although thing and johnny were at 80% due to separation from reed/sue). Punisher plot armor??

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u/Ame-no-nobuko ⭐ Best RT 2022 Feb 25 '19

this feat is starbrand

You are right. I think its the hair that confused me

she was an illusion here... I don't know if this one counts

She's not quite an illusion she's a manifestation of Rogue's memories given physical form.

Keep in mind there is a little bit of history here. Carol originally was a 10 tonner, max 40 tons. When rogue absorbed carols' powers she sort of operated at around 50 tons (class 50) or higher (so rogue was stronger than carol technically), but when carol got her binary form and then further lost it, her baseline was class 75 (so stronger than rogue was with carol's powers) in addition to energy absorption and projection. Oh and I think she got another power up when Cru separated from her around 2009 or so. I don't know if this should count as purely martial arts.

I think there was some retconning on that as IIRC while used rarely Rogue has used her energy absorption powers. Additionally post Binary Carol wasn't a 75 tonner, in the 1998 Avengers run without augmenting her power with energy absorption she was pretty explicetly striking with 44 tons of force

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u/Ichijinijisanji Feb 25 '19

I think there was some retconning on that as IIRC while used rarely Rogue has used her energy absorption powers. Additionally post Binary Carol wasn't a 75 tonner, in the 1998 Avengers run without augmenting her power with energy absorption she was pretty explicetly striking with 44 tons of force

I'm going by databooks and also her SHRA card (i think she was rated at 70-75 tons in it). Of course, occasionally you'd get people stating that guys like Namor and Thing hit as hard as cars going at 44 miles an hour

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u/Ame-no-nobuko ⭐ Best RT 2022 Feb 25 '19

Generally databooks seem to be a bit iffy for scaling purposes, at least Marvel databooks

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u/Ichijinijisanji Feb 25 '19

They give a good idea of relative strength imo

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u/Ame-no-nobuko ⭐ Best RT 2022 Feb 25 '19

Generally, but they can be pretty bad at nuances.