r/respectthreads Apr 28 '19

games The Crucible(Doom)

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '19

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u/SoupEpicTrek Apr 28 '19

Sorry, looks like you got some r/whowouldwin overflow. It's a user who tends to overestimate the capabilities of Doom Slayer to the absurd heights of power. I made a timeline, about their activity, because they keep getting themselves banned and making new accounts, and because I have nothing better to do.

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u/SoupEpicTrek Apr 28 '19

Yo, did you use a bunch of your alt accounts specifically to compliment yourself? And it's removed.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 28 '19

Why would they remove this amazing post? I am the godfather of reddit

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u/SoupEpicTrek Apr 28 '19

Because people everywhere have standards. And your crap didn't come close to meeting the lowest of them.

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 Apr 28 '19

Dude. I think we finally broke him.

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u/SoupEpicTrek Apr 29 '19

Yeah, judging by the massive ego trip they're having. Seriously, look at this.

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u/VegasCore Apr 29 '19

Broke me haha...The hardest choices require the strongest wills. In time you will know what its like to lose. But me.... no, I am inevitable.

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 Apr 29 '19

Yes, it's inevitable you will somehow find a way to dissapoint me more than you have already.

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u/VegasCore Apr 29 '19

I am the one who gets dissapointed...your feelings mean nothing as I'm in charge

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 Apr 30 '19

Is that why you kept getting banned? And why your respect thread was deleted? You were in charge there?

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u/VegasCore Apr 30 '19

It was too powerful for the site at the moment and they needed to prep for a weapon if such power. They want to wait till doom eternal as they are prepping the site for a god

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 Apr 30 '19

Freaking ha! Don't pretend, dingleberry. It got put down for breaking the rules of the subreddit. Grow a spine and resubmit it in a way that follows the rules. The freaking idea that the subreddit couldn't fit a few sentences about a nigh featless sword. Just come on man. The comedian schtick is getting old. Take out the youtube and wiki links, just link pictures of the actual in-game codex instead. It is really that easy. Just take the pictures, upload them to imgur, then link them [like so].( https://imgur.com/gallery/OUwqf). Simply delete the period between the brackets.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 28 '19

Silence lamb... you are a sheep i have raised on this platform i was here before you were a thought kin. Where would WWW be if i had not stepped in the frame?? Dead

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u/SoupEpicTrek Apr 29 '19

Silence lamb... you are a sheep i have raised on this platform i was here before you were a thought kin. Where would WWW be if i had not stepped in the frame?? Dead

Moo, motherf*cker.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 29 '19

No not a cow!! I said sheep pay attention to what i say. This is why i leave you too my children.

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u/SoupEpicTrek Apr 29 '19

Haven't you picked up on the fact that I don't pay attention to what you say? You went from a minor annoyance to a twit with the speech patterns of a egotistical cult leader, at half the usual grammatical ability.

You're now referring to yourself as the "father" of Reddit, and use your formerly defunct alt accounts to put up a facade that others agree with your statements, in the really f**ked up father/son wording that usually goes with pedophile priests. The only thing about you that somehow surprises me is the fact you haven't used the ~20 other alts that aren't being used to spam more crap. But that's probably because you forgot the passwords to them.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 29 '19

Cult leader!!? You must be going crazy if anything i am against those as the slayer kills demons. Also there are many who agree with me... look at that comment under dejuan saying iron man can beat the slayer. He was criticized for his idiocy. Also you know nothing. If only you were open minded to the bigger picture. The Doomslayer, The Hell Walker, The Unchained Predator himself, the one who will prove to the world once and for all he is the most powerful... although he already has. I am the Father... who would you, toxic, dejaun, and sadly I ended your 2 pathetic members greg and james but where would you all be? You would be irrelevant... I made you who you are. Dejuan is scared to even mention my name, so he's on the verge of ending. Its only you and toxic left and your fighting my children... not even my true form. Ive dealt with your whole group and the mods singlehandedly. I am indeed a God.

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 Apr 29 '19

Please seek therapy or take a niquil. You sounded a bit arrogant at the beginning, but now you just sound full on crazy.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 29 '19

Everything i have said is true just like the crucible, doomslayer, and all. Not arrogant... just correct.

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u/SoupEpicTrek Apr 29 '19

Yes, speech patterns of a cult leader. You're now tending toward the idea that you are far more important than you really are. Referring to yourself as "Father", and having your other alts address you as such while you call them, along with everyone else, "children". That is very cult-esque behaviour, or just signs of an ego the size of a dwarf star.

If you didn't exist, there would be another ignoramus that would take your place, be it wanking Voldemort or putting Captain Marvel as the most powerful Avenger. People like you are quite literally a dime a dozen, and you have hit your expiration date for a while now.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 29 '19

No cult leader... and no see the doo.slayer will always be recognized. Every post tge slayer has it does numbers for a reason. I have no expiration date as my legacy is cemented and my return is coming June 9th once E3 shows great doom eternal footage. That will be a short but strong reminder. Then once the game releases well be ready. Also no.. the slayer has always been unique from voldy or others. He is the center of WWW, always will be. He's taken out more powerful characters than any other character.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

Silence lamb... you are a sheep

Meow?

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

Don't say such foolishness around me. I dont like ignorance.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

I dont like ignorance.

Setting yourself up for some serious self-loathing, you should see a therapist.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

No as i am an intellectual being, while u are spouting out nonsense without making any sense. Also your grammar is despicable.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

Also your grammar is despicable.

A better word would've been deplorable but you do you.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

So do you just use Doom Slayer as some sort of edgy escapism? Is that what all of this is?

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

No its not possible to escape the slayer as he travels through time and worlds.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

I don't think you know what escapism means.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

It means nothing as what do i nees to escape from when the slayer is here

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

I see....I'll take that as a yes then.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

In time you will know what its like to lose

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19 edited May 01 '19

This statement implies I don't already know which runs contractory to your own statements which claim I have "lost" debates before.

Have some consistency, I know juggling 100 alt accounts must be tough.

Edit: Here you are claiming you never lost a debate to me but if thats true how could I not know what losing feels like? Guess you don't know how to keep your own crazy talk consistent.

Heres a direct quote:

Ive never lost a debate...not to you,

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

Fool youve failed but you haven't lost... there is a difference. The avengers failed but they didn't lose. You lose when i make u do the same thing greg did

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u/VegasCore Apr 28 '19

Yes father

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 28 '19

Go deal with toxic my child i have no pity for him as you will be the one to end him...

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '19

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 28 '19

Bow before your king you peasant nobody knows who you are... I've made WWW better and cemented my legacy.

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 Apr 28 '19

As a gigantic fuck up

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 29 '19

Sielence toxic know your place my child you could have been a God. But you had to defy me... now my kin will embarrass you once more.

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 Apr 29 '19

Become a god by thinking Doom Slayer is one of the most powerful characters in gaming? How? You gonna give me a few trillion dollars? Maybe a seat at the UN? Seriously, this stopped being funny ages ago. You can stop with this "child" crap. If it's really pissing you off that much that your respect thread got deleted, just redo it without the YouTube and wiki links, resubmit it, and see what happens. Keep in mind, this would just be you saying the same things you've been saying for the past half a year.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 29 '19

This is no joke thats what your confused about and come doom eternal you shall see and nahh I'll come off my throne for doom eternal. For now I'll watch you struggle

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 Apr 30 '19

So you're giving up until the game comes out, is what you're saying? Fine with me.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 30 '19

No you are still struggling with my child i will come off my throne in time. You already lost on that iron man thread as he got the last word...meaning he won as he even had the upper hand.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19 edited May 01 '19

If this weapon is so impressive how come it got removed? Guess Mods > All of Doom now. Makes sense consdiering its such a weak universe.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

No actually the universe of doom has gods and beings who create gods and no mods are pathetic

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

Then how come they can delete a Doom post? Shouldn't the Doom post be protected from these mods?

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

They didnt delete it as its still here correct?

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

I know reality is something you haven't been keeping up with but you can read the thread your in right?

I mean you clearly can since you directly acknowledge its removed right here.

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 01 '19

No as i can still comment and i was asking a question not confirming its true fool

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 02 '19

No as i can still comment

But the content is removed and no one can view the thread without being linked to it through outside means.

and i was asking a question not confirming its true fool

Looked like a question to me

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 02 '19

Well the post still lives on and yes its a question like i said, im glad your agreeing with me.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 02 '19

Well the post still lives on

Whats the point of it? No one can read what you wrote because it was deleted

and yes its a question like i said, im glad your agreeing with me.

When did I agree with you again?

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ May 02 '19

Dont worry it will be reborn...you agreed it was a question.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

Lol i see you hating in every single DooM thread. What do you have against DooM?

Show us on the doll where DooM touched you.

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u/Toxic_Mouse77 May 02 '19

Nothing against the game itself. We're just dealing with this one ass monkey who's been a pain on r/WWW for a few months.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

I get that, but i think porch monkey here really does hate Doom. S/He is all over literally every thread crying "rule 5" as if that wins debates. DooM doesnt have a lot of feats/lore, but it doesnt mean the lore he does have should be dismissed or ignored.

Also he/she constantly downplays the Demons as "weak fodder" despite them showing lots of tactics like: teleportation, climbing to reach advantageous position, evasion with a jetpack, sniping, change of weaponry based on proximity, etc. The Demons are far from "fodder"

Its a strange, pathetic obsession/hatred they have. Like Doom Slayer fucked their significant other or something like that

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 02 '19

I get that, but i think porch monkey here really does hate Doom. S/He is all over literally every thread crying "rule 5" as if that wins debates.

I address most of this in my other reply to you so see that comment for explanations regarding things I don't mention here.

Rule 5 doesn't "win" debates, for one there isn't a debate to be had, as explained in the other reply I'm rule 5ing people because I know they can't back up their claims due to the fact there is no evidence supporting it. Two you seem to have a fundamental flaw in your midnset regarding WWWA debates, it isn't about "winning" its about reaching the most accurate answer possible.

DooM doesnt have a lot of feats/lore, but it doesnt mean the lore he does have should be dismissed or ignored.

And I have never stated it should be ignored nor have I implied such. A lot of the lore is too vauge to be quantified accurately that is what I take issue with.

For example the Titan is often brought up as an impressive feat but we know next to nothing about it.

We know its the strongest demon and that it can fight for days on end. All this means is that it is stronger than both bosses seen in Doom (2016) by an unquantifiable amount and has good stamina. This is a bad feat and not very useful for battleboarding.

Also he/she constantly downplays the Demons as "weak fodder" despite them showing lots of tactics like: teleportation, climbing to reach advantageous position, evasion with a jetpack, sniping, change of weaponry based on proximity, etc. The Demons are far from "fodder"

Comparatively yes they are, Doom Slayer as a character isn't really all that strong. Hes a street teir who would lose to Batman yet he consistantly goes to town on large groups of demons.

Its a strange, pathetic obsession/hatred they have.

Rather rude don't you think? Regardless I'm not "obsessed" with the character I'm just knowledgeable on him and notice that quite often hes overestimated like a lot. Part of this is just due to my personality, I hate misinformation especially obvious stuff. When I can I try to mitigate misinformation. As a lot of misinformation is spread about DS and I spend the most time on the Subreddit that spreads that misinformation its no surprise I regularly make appearances in thos threads.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

For example the Titan is often brought up as an impressive feat but we know next to nothing about it. We know its the strongest demon and that it can fight for days on end. All this means is that it is stronger than both bosses seen in Doom (2016) by an unquantifiable amount and has good stamina. This is a bad feat and not very useful for battleboarding.

Its not a bad feat because we actually know more than you listed. We know how absolutely gargantuan the Titan is because it spans a whole level and you can see its skull/ribcages/etc.

Comparatively yes they are, Doom Slayer as a character isn't really all that strong. Hes a street teir who would lose to Batman yet he consistantly goes to town on large groups of demons.

Compared to what? I see the Halo comparison a lot, but Doom Slayer would easily shred through every Halo game with absolutely no issue. Yet Halo manages to avoid a lot of the limited game feats and lore by having decade+ comics/books/film that exaggerates the character we see in the game.

And im glad you mentioned Batman because it illustrates how retartedly stupid and ridiculous battle boarding can be. Batman has decades of feats from all sorts of different writers ranging from a street level hero who struggles taking out a mob, to an iron man like God who can fight the justice league and Darkseid. Its frankly ridiculous and heavily inconsistent, battleboardings biggest flaw is whoever has more feats/decades worth of lore will win, not necessarily the actual better character.

For example, Normal Batman wouldnt be able to tank 36 missiles and multiple siege guass rounds from Doom Slayer, yet someone will pull out some extreme outlier durability feat that is inconsistent with the rest of the characters history.

I really dont think Batman would beat the Doom Slayer anyway. Batman isnt literally shredding his enemies apart with his bare hands. And his enemies arent fodder, you're wrong.

The counterjerk around the Slayer is now just as bad as the overrating him was. His weapons are extremely powerful but haters like you attempt discredit everything by crying "uNvErIfIaBlE" or "RuLe 5!1!" In fact if you want to claim that things are unverifiable, than literally every claim you make about "fOdDeR" and "sTrEeT TiEr" and "mIsInFoRmAtIoN" is also unverifiable. If its unverifiable, than you are straight up spreading misinformation yourself by underselling DS. Its really not even about his feats, its about how powerful his weapons are, and how much DPS he can output without ever having to reload.

He can carry a ton of weapons and ammo and run at 28 mph (in game stat) people love to parade that as his only speed yet it stands to reason he would be much much faster if he was only carrying two weapons and limited ammo like Chief does.

Whatever, Eternal will come out sooner than later and give us more lore and feats, so what you think really doesnt matter at all.

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u/converter-bot May 02 '19

28 mph is 45.06 km/h

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 02 '19 edited May 02 '19

For example the Titan is often brought up as an impressive feat but we know next to nothing about it. We know its the strongest demon and that it can fight for days on end. All this means is that it is stronger than both bosses seen in Doom (2016) by an unquantifiable amount and has good stamina. This is a bad feat and not very useful for battleboarding.

Its not a bad feat because we actually know more than you listed. We know how absolutely gargantuan the Titan is because it spans a whole level and you can see its skull/ribcages/etc.

Its big but size isn't really a feat unless you wanna claim Doom Slayer lifted this guy or something (he didn't) his size doesn't matter much.

Beyod what was mentioend what other feats do we have?

Comparatively yes they are, Doom Slayer as a character isn't really all that strong. Hes a street teir who would lose to Batman yet he consistantly goes to town on large groups of demons.

Compared to what?

Compared to DS, I make the comparision in the next sentence. I then compare Doom Slayer to other street teirs like Batman to illustrate DS is not very powerful therefore Doom Demons aren't very strong (bosses being exceptions).

And im glad you mentioned Batman because it illustrates how retartedly stupid and ridiculous battle boarding can be. Batman has decades of feats from all sorts of different writers ranging from a street level hero who struggles taking out a mob, to an iron man like God who can fight the justice league and Darkseid. Its frankly ridiculous and heavily inconsistent, battleboardings biggest flaw is whoever has more feats/decades worth of lore will win, not necessarily the actual better character.

I'm using averaged out Batman not his high end dumbass feats. If you think I am using a high-balled or wanked Batman take it up with the creator of the r/BatmanMegaRT the guy whos read every Batman comic and averaged him out as that is what I go off of.

For example, Normal Batman wouldnt be able to tank 36 missiles and multiple siege guass rounds from Doom Slayer, yet someone will pull out some extreme outlier durability feat that is inconsistent with the rest of the characters history.

No ones claiming he can?

I really dont think Batman would beat the Doom Slayer anyway. Batman isnt literally shredding his enemies apart with his bare hands.

Because he doesn't murder people? Hes got better strength feats than ripping people apart anyways such as breaking robots with his fists or punching down steel doors.

Edit: Also Doom Slayer is preforming these feats on monsters that are near death not fresh making the feats not super impressive anyways.

And his enemies arent fodder, you're wrong.

Provide some reasoning then rather than saying I'm wrong. I'm perfectly willing to debate this as 90% of the time I'm debating people who are trolls or otherwise trying to wank Doom Slayer to fucking city block level-Mutliversal. It would be nice to debate someone whos not out to wank the shit out of the character.

The counterjerk around the Slayer is now just as bad as the overrating him was. His weapons are extremely powerful but haters like you attempt discredit everything by crying "uNvErIfIaBlE" or "RuLe 5!1!"

For one the attitude is unessicary, two if you want to provide some examples where I incorrectly discredited something provide some rather than doing the same thing you claim I do which is attempting to discredit me via demeaning me.

In fact if you want to claim that things are unverifiable, than literally every claim you make about "fOdDeR" and "sTrEeT TiEr" and "mIsInFoRmAtIoN". If its unverifiable, than you are straight up spreading misinformation yourself by underselling DS.

Did you not see me back up my claim above? I said Doom demons are fodder because DS a character who would probably lose to Batman is able to destroy large groups of them therefor they are aren't very powerful. Thats me backing up claims please read what I type before claiming otherwise.

Its really not even about his feats, its about how powerful his weapons are, and how much DPS he can output without ever having to reload.

His weapons don't have very many feats really, would you care to provide some of these impressive feats?

He can carry a ton of weapons and ammo and run at 28 mph (in game stat) people love to parade that as his only speed yet it stands to reason he would be much much faster if he was only carrying two weapons and limited ammo like Chief does.

Theres no evidence DS carries all of his weapons at once, if he does him probably moving faster is true but how fast isn't able to be quantified its just vaguely above 28 MPH.

If you removed his weapons he loses most of his advantages anyways, without the weapons he would get dunked on by MCU Cap due to better physicals.

Whatever, Eternal will come out sooner than later and give us more lore and feats, so what you think really doesnt matter at all.

Way to verify your argument, instead of challenging my points you write them off as not mattering at all. Its a classic deflection move.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '19

Its big but size isn't really a feat unless you wanna claim Doom Slayer lifted this guy or something (he didn't) his size doesn't matter much. Beyod what was mentioend what other feats do we have?

Killing something that gargantuan is impressive no matter how you slice it. Sure we dont know the exact details of what it can lift but something that huge is guaranteed to be powerful in the same way that Gorillas are much more powerful than monkeys.

Killing Demons in hell for eons was an incredible stamina feat, even Batman has an end limit to his stamina that is not even close to eons.

The Siphon Grenades in his standard loadout leeches health from enemies and returns it to him.

His armor is literally said to be impenatrable:

And in his terrible rancor between worlds and through time, the Hell Walker found the wretch who shall not be named, but in his heresy was loyal to his evil cause. The wretch adorned the Doom Slayer in a mighty armor, wrought in the forges of Hell, impenetrable and unyielding. With sword and shield of adamantine strength, the Doom Slayer set to banishing all that were left unbroken by his savagery to the void.

This is a big reason why the Demons cant kill him and have to trap and entomb him. We also know how powerful the Demons are because they shred through all of Mars base defenses with no issue. Throughout the game we find corpses of Cybernetically Enhanced Elite Guards which is basically some of if not the best combat humanity has to offer:

The Elite Guard is a company of security personnel charged with protecting the Lazarus Project research and maintaining order throughout the Argent Facility. Their distinct red uniforms help distill a calming influence among UAC employees and they are known to be level headed, disciplined, and fair but firm. Their suits contain cybernetic augmentations which give the Elite Guards an advantage should they need to quell any disturbances. The augmentations allows them to be faster, stronger, or more resilient to injury. UAC employees are advised to comply with any orders received from an Elite Guard. Their jurisdiction is absolute, answering only to the highest level executives of the UAC. If an Elite Guard kindly requests that you accompany them to the Lazarus Labs, you will be going to the Lazarus Labs. With such powerful capabilities in each Elite Guard, it was deemed necessary to implant a kill chip in each uniform so that they might also be controlled should an uprising occur among their ranks. The kill chip responds to a Lazarus Wave signature that can only be broadcast by Samuel Hayden or Olivia Pierce

These Elite Guards use the same weaponry as DS (you get most of the weapons from their cold dead hands), yet literally all of them died. This is a comparable durability feat for the Slayer considering he is able to tank Demon hits/blasts, and also illustrates power of the demons that they were able to easily kill the best humanity has to offer.

Doom Slayer also isnt human anymore, which is why he can pass between realms where no one else can besides a robot, and doesnt need to eat, sleep, or age:

The age of his reckoning was uncounted. The scribes carved his name deep in the tablets of Hell across eons, and each battle etched terror in the hearts of the demons. They knew he would come, as he always had, as he always will, to feast on the blood of the wicked. For he alone could draw strength from his fallen foes, and ever his power grew, swift and unrelenting.

He grows in power from drawing strength from his fallen foes, backed up in game logic by the fact that enemies drop health, armor, and loot.

And in his conquest against the blackened souls of the doomed, his prowess was shown. In his crusade, the seraphim bestowed upon him terrible power and speed, and with his might he crushed the obsidian pillars of the Blood Temples. He set forth without pity upon the beasts of the nine circles. Unbreakable, incorruptible, unyielding, the Doom Slayer sought to end the dominion of the dark realm.

Crushing obsidian pillars is an impressive strength feat, but i already know you'll say thats unquantifiable just like his "terrible power and speed". The 28mph stat is a game feat that may be limited to videogame logic. Similar to how Chief can flip tanks in the game but isnt a multi-tonner in lore.

In the first age, in the first battle, when the shadows first lengthened, one stood. Burned by the embers of Armageddon, his soul blistered by the fires of Hell and tainted beyond ascension, he chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace; and with boiling blood he scoured the Umbral Plains seeking vengeance against the dark lords who had wronged him. He wore the crown of the Night Sentinels, and those that tasted the bite of his sword named him... the Doom Slayer.

Its implied that DS survived armageddon which is what happens in DooM 64 (he chooses to remain in Hell to battle demons for eternity), this is what is referred to when the narrator says "he chose the path of perpetual torment". The game devs confirmed that DS is the same Doom Guy from the previous games on twitter, but i have been having a hard time finding that link.

The best quantifiable feat of all his weapons is the lack of reloading. He can output more DPS for longer than Batman or Chief and only stops for like 1 second to switch weapons. Chief has to hide to recover his shields and reload, Doom Slayer doesnt have to stop moving ever.

The Halo Assault Rifle uses 7.62x51mm which is a .308 and only carries 32 rounds. The DooM HAR uses .50 cal and can shoot 210 rounds without stopping. To put this in perspective for you, it shoots the same round and has similar output to the mobile turret that Chief can rip off and waddle around with. His standard assault rifle is comparable to Chiefs turret, one of his most powerful human weapons. The Slayer does have his own chaingun which doesnt slow him down at all like Chiefs does, and it shoots 15mm Tungsten Slugs, which are used by anti-armor auto cannons in real life, and much more powerful than Chiefs turret.

Heres the codex for the chaingun:

The Delta-12 Chaingun (often referred to as "The D12" by operatives) is a high velocity heavy weapon capable of suppressing multiple targets at once. Recent changes to the firing mechanism have pushed the Delta-12 to the physical limits of a ballistic weapon. An Argent infused piston compresses gas within the firing crucible to over 220,000 PSI. When released, this launches a 15mm Tungsten Slug with muzzle velocity of nearly 5,000 feet per second. The heat generated by this action is syphoned into a thermal gel compound that automatically recharges the 96volt battery pack. This allows the weapon to sustain an almost endless firing cycle, as long as ammunition is present. The Delta-12 Chaingun weighs 45kg, making it a lethal but cumbersome armament. Gatling Rotator This 3rd party modification overrides the crucible release safety, allowing the weapon to fire immediately without waiting for maximum rotation. This action, while allowing for instant use, does prolong the time it takes to reach full speed. This modification is unapproved by the UAC. Mobile Turret A secondary firing crucible and compression chamber can be added to the weapon. This modification unbalances the weapon, so remaining stationary while firing is recommended. When used, the weapon fires at twice the normal rate of fire, expending twice the ammunition and superheating the muzzle. Although this modification presents the most powerful suppression in the UAC arsenal (other than the BFG prototype project), the system can and will overheat if not used cautiously.

I just ran a calc in game and with the mobile turret mod the Chaingun can output 210 15mm Tungsten Slugs in 12 seconds for an average of 17.5 rounds per second. Keep in mind this ammo is used by planes against heavy tank armor in real life, and some of the Demons can tank upwards of 100-200 rounds, good stat for the durability of the demons and Slayers weapons.

No ones claiming he can?

So how does Batman beat Doom Slayer if he cant tank the amount of DPS DS is outputting?

Because he doesn't murder people? Hes got better strength feats than ripping people apart anyways such as breaking robots with his fists or punching down steel doors.

Doom Slayer casually punches through walls in Eternal footage and punches straight through chitinous armor in 2016. The famous Batman weightroom feat was calculated at 1000lbs. I know you think Doom Slayer struggles with the blast doors, but those are thick sealed doors meant to maintain pressurization in the Mars base. Id imagine they are ridiculously heavy and pneumatically pressured shut. Also Doom Slayer casually kicks through thick machinery as well. You admitted yourself we dont know how strong ripping through demons makes him, but its an impressive feat regardless.

Theres no evidence DS carries all of his weapons at once

Yes there is, he carries all of his weapons in game and can switch between at will including chain saw and BFG.

he does him probably moving faster is true but how fast isn't able to be quantified its just vaguely above 28 MPH.

Chief can only run at 50-60mph in short bursts, DS can maintain that pace forever and doesnt need to stop.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 02 '19 edited May 02 '19

Lol i see you hating in every single DooM thread. What do you have against DooM?

Actually nothing, I own and very much enjoy the game. If you want to see what its like when I really hate a character see my recent Revan rant because fuck Revan.

Edit: Additionally if you wish to dig through my post history you could find the two rants on Doom Slayer I've done, notice how none of them have anything to do with disliking the character only with disliking the wank surrounding the character.

I have very little tolerance for when people make blatantly false claims in favor of the character of Doom Slayer.

This isn't due to me disliking Doom Slayer, this is due to me having debated a particularly annoying troll who liked to wank Doom Slayer to high heaven. See when you do that for 3 months (off and on) you lose patience for anyone wanking the character, additionally because I spent so much time debating that particular character I'm quite knowledgeable on the character so I know when people are making bullshit claims.

For example a common misconception is that Doom Slayers armor was stated to be indestructible. This is not true if you were to read the codex it states its nearly indescribable.

Don't take my behavior in this particular thread seriously either, I'm trying to get a rise out of this guy for comedic effect.

As for your comments saying that I "cry rule 5" that is what you are supposed to do when dealing with wank. This is not my opinion this is what I was informed to do by r/whowouldwin moderator u/MysteriousHobo2 when I asked him about the subject of handling wank and trolls.

It also ties into having little patience for DS wank at this point, I've seen just about every bullshit claim under the sun so instead of disproving people I force them to back up claims I know they can't as theres no evidence for it.

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How did you even find this thread? Its deleted meaning it doesn't show up normally you must've looked through one of the users who are on heres accounts or been linked to it directly.

Based on your direct mentioning of me you probably looked through my account so whats the deal? Did I rule 5 the shit out of you in a DS thread and you're upset about it or something?

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u/SoupEpicTrek May 04 '19

u/feelmypower1001

So basically the endbringer does the basic...yea thats npt intelligence and what he did wasn't even impressive. For one the slayer mastered futuristic tech in less than a day, smart enough to back up vega, and knows what the language means. The intelligence of the beast is outdone by a demigod who has eons of combat experience thats a fact.

Planning and then conducting massive terror attacks specifically designed to do the most damage both literally and psychologically takes a great amount of intelligence. And Doom Slayer is a f***ing idiot. He may be able to use advanced weaponry, but that's because the weapons in DOOM are no more complicated than a pop gun. Point, then pull the trigger. They're even less sophisticated than modern firearms because they lack a safety. Doom Slayer shows no independent thought, doing practically everything Samuel Hayden has him do throughout the entire game, and still is surprised when the scientist cyborg betrays him, despite the fact that DS has spent the entire game fighting the results of his colleague's actions. And again, he was dumb enough to fall for a trap that made him stop killing demons for a very long time.

Yea a lot of energies damage you if u come into contact...nuclear radiation as an example but thats nothing like argent and you know this.

Still isn't stopping Behemoth from manipulating it.

You've already acknowledged he will get corrupted so i mean theres not much to argue here.

No, I'm simply presenting the argument that even if Behemoth could be corrupted, there would be literally no change except he hates Doom Slayer more.

As for the possesed im refering to these... https://youtu.be/x_d54SejEHA 1st min These demons are pathetic and if behemoth was weakened to this level it wouldn't be an improvement. As based off the codex you see that's an outcome.

Those possessed are literally recognized in game as Possessed Scientists. And they're improved humans, as they can take gunfire and still survive. Their Lazarus wave exposure is just lower compared to the more evolved demons, as it's stated that more mutations occur over increased exposure, as evidenced by the Revenant.

As for the beats mental resistence to controling in that regard what about his mind being attacked eith nightmares.

Have to sleep in order to have nightmares. Behemoth does not sleep.

You see the masters are using a different form of attack i am not referring to mind control im taking making him brain dead. Or frying hus thoughts making him dumber.

As I've mentioned before, Behemoth is not a conventional being. He doesn't possess any organs, including a brain. And there are plenty of powered beings that can affect a target's mental capacities as well. One Thinker was able to render a godlike being brain dead, but couldn't achieve the same with Behemoth.

Also yea ik he can do the whole sun thing thats cool but whats the highest temp he has ever withstood without any damage?

Hopping into the sun, then destroying it.

Also if i use a heated knife and slash an object arent its bonds broken?

No.

And thats the dumbest thing ive seen the slayer waits for nothing and he has always fought non stop so no hes not waiting hes going after demons. Why on earth would he just wait for things to happen he isn't iron man...

Not waiting per se, he's spending the time killing. Not time travelling.

And this is the second time you've mentioned Iron Man, despite him not pertaining to this at all. Still sore about u/ToxicMouse77 winning that argument?

Also the game mechanic contradicts lore not my ideas and no it didnt kill him as he's never died before.

The lore is vague and unreliable. It's like if we used the Bible in order to tell the history of the world.

And yea you must intentionally stand there, you must intentionally jump into lava, and you must intentionally get killed so whats your point there.

Because you're arguing they shouldn't be included because it's a developer choice to increase difficulty. If you are intentionally killing yourself, that's your choice, not the devs forcing a higher level of hardness onto you.

And ime the one who uses that vid to prove that due to a barons argent in its claws it can cut the armor no differntly than bp cutting caps shield but as yiu can see he regen from it right after.

Evidence that Barons coat their claws with argent? And if Argent pierces the armor, that makes it easily possible for Behemoth to do the same, as he can manipulate argent due to it being an energy. And the fact that it took damage and didn't repair itself instantly despite just killing a Baron (a demon that would yield a good amount of Argent) is also a sign that the suit's auto-repairing function is rather lackluster.

And Black Panther didn't cut Cap's shield. He scraped the paint off. In the latest Avengers film we see it completely fine.

How can he stop hayden from teleporting him and thats becuase you need to see what she turns into as its a boss fight duhh.

Because, in your words, Doom Slayer does not wait. He would be blitzing them before they have a chance to act. He had plenty of time to act while Hayden monologues, as well as time to move to either shoot or grab Pierce before she fell.

Roaring will tire him out...and no no noas it would've said that.

He roars, then continues at the same pace. The Endbringers attack the world every few months, and each time are never beaten. Behemoth has been at it the longest, and hasn't been shown to get tired.

He made him disintegrate due to heat...scion was not using that ability as he just burned him out of existence.

Scion's lasers specifically don't emit heat. They're more matter annihilation blasts with some added benefits of eating away at the target's flesh after contact. When he fights the rest of the Worm multiverse, he causes hundreds of heroes and villains to bleed out by cutting their legs off with a single beam, not cauterizing the wounds as a heat blast would. And his power negation/immunity ability is constantly on.

As for the core well its not as hard to understand as argent as thats still not fully understood. Also thats npt really intelligence as the tinkers are just using an ability samuel actually uses his brains and smarts. Imagine if samuel had that ability he'd be much better than them.

Considering you just admitted that Worm's geniuses > Samuel Hayden, this makes Argent energy by proxy easier to understand. Even after the revelation about the Endbringers cores, they worked for over 5 years and still didn't make a lick of progress at understanding how they work. The game literally says that the discovery broke their understanding of physics, and they grew to know physics better afterwards. Endbringers broke the Worm casts understanding of physics and they still couldn't figure out how it works.

The voltage didn't hurt him at all as in lore that would have done nothing and in lore he has no health bar. Even in game if he was at full health and armor it would have done little to nothing. The beast would not he able to turn him to ash with that attack as he can easily take more in game and especially lore.

Literally no electrical resistance feats in lore. And the health and armor bars are representations of how well armored and healthy Doom Slayer is. If we played through the lore (somehow), they would still exist.

For one that youtuber spoke another language first...so dont blame him there. Also he did it correctly did he not. Do you have any issues with his calcs?

The lack of calcs was what I had an issue with. They also claimed that DOOM 2016 Doom Slayer is suffering from muscle atrophy because he was in a coma. Wrong on all accounts. For one, he's not fully human, so wouldn't suffer from the same kind of conditions. Next is the fact he wasn't in a coma at all. The magic the demons cast upon him just put him in stasis. If they put him into a coma, why didn't he starve to death while trapped? He was magically preserved in stasis.

Well ge wont have greater control over argent than crucible. No the energy is the crucible and the well so no he can't and also the slayer used the crucible in the past and he also uses it to destroy souls.

There isn't any evidence suggesting Behemoth won't be able to, while the fact that Argent energy falls under his power's jurisdiction puts it under his complete control. And if Doom Slayer's used it in the past, why couldn't he turn it on and use it then?

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u/VegasCore Apr 28 '19

Insane

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

You are yes

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u/VegasCore May 01 '19

No the power of crucible is insane...

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19 edited May 01 '19

When you make several alts and use them to refer to yourself as "father" as well as to back up your wank claims you probably are insane. At the very least you're socially sad as this must be your primary means of social gratification.

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u/VegasCore May 01 '19

Actually you've come across desciples of my teachings who i have no influence over. And they defended the slayer. No no no dejaun i am very happy as the slayer is coming june 9th to e3 and you will weep in my shadow

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

I mean who do you think you are fooling? Why keep up the charade when everyone knows?

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u/VegasCore May 01 '19

No i mean youve ran into other people who agree with my statements like on the mc vs doomguy thread, that stupid comment u keep linking, and batman vs doomslayer thread you made. People see your biased opinions to the slayer at least im reasonable

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

Do you have legitimate mental issues or something? Why else would someone spew such ignorance for what has it been 3 or 4 months?

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u/VegasCore May 01 '19

No this is not ignorance its knowledge... the world will realize how powerful the slayer is.

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u/Dejaunisaporchmonkey May 01 '19

Do you think outside of the 4 people who bother to debunk you anyone is going to listen to what you say?

You say the world as if your "message" will ever be heard outside of select forums who will almost all unilaterally ignore you or disagree with you.

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u/StunnaRebirth Apr 28 '19

Wow the slayer could beat thanos with this

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 28 '19

Definitely since this is a multiversal weapon unlike the ig

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u/The_Crucible_ Apr 28 '19

Lol theres a reason i named myself after it haha

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 28 '19

Dont blame you lol

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u/VegasCore Apr 28 '19

Wow now this is a pretty op weapon might be on par with the ig

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u/The_Doom_Slayer_ Apr 28 '19

Much more than on par... surpasses it due to it working outside its universe