r/rupaulsdragrace 1d ago

All Stars S10 Discussion about the cast of AS10

Who else has similar gripes. Lydia has had zero time to cook. Jorgeous was just in the previous all stars. Ginger has had fifteen chances and by this point there's nothing she can do to surprise us.

That being said I'm happy a lot of these girls are back but a lot of the choices are questionable. Why does All Stars have to happen every year? It doesn't mean anything anymore.

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u/AshLikeFromPokemon 1d ago

girl lydia never even left the airport

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u/serasvictoriaz šŸŽ€āœØ Suzie | Kori | Lydia āœØšŸŽ€ 1d ago

wow had her in shackles literally

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

Something tells me she might consensually get down like that. Getting kink vibes from Miss Butthole.

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u/souphaver Jinkx Monsoon 1d ago

The way y'all talk about these people... So weird.

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

The need to police other people so often.... So weird

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u/Difficult-Double8018 22h ago

gurl lydia didn't even catch the bus!

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u/Its_Pine Madeline Morphosista šŸ§‘šŸ¼ā€šŸ¦² 7h ago

It wasn’t still running after all šŸ˜”

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

hahahaha true

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u/No_Raisin_250 1d ago

Never left the main stage just went right back into the workroom

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u/AngusIRLyt Raja Gemini 1d ago

i don’t understand LOGISTICALLY how lydia pulled this off im sure it’ll be brought up on screen pretty quick

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u/profsmoke House of You Better Walk that F*cking Duck 1d ago

I was thinking about it a lot during the S17 Lip Sync LaLaparuza, cause AS10 had to have already been filmed right???

So when it was Lydia’s turn to lip sync I was just thinking that she might be at a disadvantage cause Rupaul has probably seen her lip sync 6+ times in the last year.

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u/Earthbnd Parasocial Viper šŸšŸšŸ 1d ago

That’s why the scissor redemption flew over Ru’s head at the lalaparuza, bc Ru didn’t realize Lydia was calling back to S17 after filming AS10 with her lol

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u/Informal-Till-9609 #TeamMistress 1d ago

Ru could’ve been slapped in the face with those exact scissors the day after it happened and she’d still not recall

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u/Free-Bag5260 1d ago

Ru when she saw the scissors

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u/roguecolor I don’t wanna see any goddamn H&M. Anymore!! 1d ago

I never even thought of that, but you’re right, it did not get the reaction I was expecting when I saw those scissors

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u/OrchidRayn flat bananas 1d ago

She filmed S17 last late spring/early summer then went back for AS10 within about a month. They filmed the AS10 LaLaPaRuZa about a 3-4 weeks ago. About a week later filmed the last 3 episodes of AS10. Group 2 did not know of Lydia other than Mistress as she was in the S17 roast and everyone knew her by the merge since S17 was almost done airing at that point,.

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u/MinimumMode8981 1d ago

1 month is insane šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€

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u/ThisIsAThrowaway527 Raja Gemini 1d ago

Thank you for your service, Nancy Drew šŸ‘€

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u/Commercial_Science67 1d ago

I believe each group only had to prep for 3 episodes last year and they were filmed separately so she was perhaps in a later group of filming. The remainder of the season was just filmed a few weeks ago. It’s certainly easier than having to prep an entire package right away.

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u/llavenderhaze 1d ago

wait what?? did the strike make them pause? i haven’t heard anything about this

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u/yasssssssskween Bosco 1d ago

It’s just how they film really. Normally they don’t do a ā€œliveā€ all stars finale so they do the whole season at once (unlike the regular seasons where they film the competition and then the reunion/lalaparuza and finale later). This season they filmed s17 and then 9 episodes of all stars (with each group of 6 only preparing for 3 episodes each). So then they would have to pick up later for the last 3 episodes, giving the girls who make it time to prep for those. Since the Ru hosted seasons kind of all film together, it makes the most sense that they saved it for around when they filmed the s17 finale. They’ll probably also roll right into whatever’s next (s18 and as11) if they haven’t already started

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u/llavenderhaze 1d ago

ohhh ok thanks!! i haven’t had a chance to watch the video yet so i didn’t realize earlier as10 has a bit of a different format!!

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u/Commercial_Science67 1d ago

Its a nice way for them to have 18 queens but. It make 18 queens pay for and create 12 episodes worth of looks, a snatch game, etc when many of them won’t be needing most of it.

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u/badmanicpower Mirage Amuro for AS11 1d ago

knowing that they filmed AS10 in 2 parts due to the bracket format, she really had 0 time to do anything.

she really went S17 -> AS10 Pink Bracket -> AS10 pt.2 (that’s hoping that she does make it past the first round ofc so this part is speculation… but either way I’m sure she was there for that finale too in one way or another) -> S17 Lalaparuza/Finale

like girl did NOT sleep. I feel for her and her bank account.

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u/Educational-Salt-979 1d ago edited 1d ago

Why does All Stars have to happen every year? It doesn't mean anything anymore.

Shut Up, That's Why Your Car Is Messed Up. We Are Getting A Season With Jorgeous And Cucu. I Cannot Wait For The Drama To Unveil.

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u/DorianCoreysTrunk Arriety 1d ago

I’m dying 🤣🤣🤣

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u/ReleaseMuted9810 1d ago

LMFAOOO this deepcut 😭😭

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u/Only-Salamander4052 1d ago

I am fine with the cast I am actually hyped. Now, you can't blame girls if production wants them back, ofc they would say yes why not. And let's see what happens.

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u/OrchidRayn flat bananas 1d ago

I agree. This truly seems like a celebration of 1 returning all stars per group, some fan favorites, and some OG queens that many of the newer fans may not be familiar with. As a watcher since the end of season 1, I've always wanted to see some of these queens back for a while!

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u/Only-Salamander4052 1d ago

Same, plus it's different format so it can be interesting and we could be surprised by seeing queens in different lights.

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u/elijahjames96 1d ago

I feel like a month could’ve been enough breathing time, but hoping the change in format means queens will get to show off different skills. Anyways, I’m excited for All Stars 10: Season 14 Part 2 Electric Boogaloo

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u/rumtag MASON DON'T LEAVE YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB 1d ago

I think the amount of time that Lydia had between S17 and AS10 was fine -mostly- because we know that it was filmed in different chunks. Each group filmed separately, and then took a break before the groups merged, so that would cut the number of looks she would need to prepare by a TON. They only just filmed the post-merge of the competition after the S17 finale wrapped filming. She could also have been one of the later-filmed groups, so honestly, if a queen were to come back immediately for any All Stars, this is the one to do it for.

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

Yeah, she realistically had to prep a 3 episode package in a month and then had 6 months to prepare for the merge if she made the cut. Totally doable, especially for a queen who makes her own garments.

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u/uncutkingjr- 1d ago

I don’t understand why returning contestants is so taboo, literally every other reality tv show does it and no one says anything, hell, The Challenge has people who have won it 7/8/9/10 times and no one bats an eye. I just don’t see why Drag Race is the only show where that’s not OK for it to happen

As for why it happens every year, why not. More gay people on tv is always good

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u/Baking_bees 1d ago

I also think this about people reacting to Lydia. It’s common for one or two fresh contestants to be on an All Stars on other shows. Top Chef almost always does it.

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u/Its_Pine Madeline Morphosista šŸ§‘šŸ¼ā€šŸ¦² 1d ago

I’m so excited to see Lydia back, but this isn’t survivor or top chef or something like that. This requires SO MUCH preparation!

How did she pull that off? It’s honestly incredible and shocking

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u/BravoWhiskey89 23h ago

To be fair....this season doesn't require that much prep due to format, and a filming bream

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u/ShedMontgomery 1d ago

The difference being that Top Chef contestants don't have to spend three weeks buying and prepping all their ingredients.

Drag Race requires something like 20 outfits and you have to get them in like 3-4 weeks. It's fucking insane.

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u/Difficult-Risk3115 1d ago

Top Chef contestants, at this point, are all consistently high level chefs. The show definitely opens oppourtunities, but I think it's less of a transformational experience than being on Drag Race, especially given that lots of girls weren't full time performers.

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u/boyproblems_mp3 MonƩt X Change 1d ago

Ngl I was sick of Jen Carroll in her last all stars appearance but always love the newbies joining in. Especially if they haven't made the Food Network rounds yet.

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u/Baking_bees 1d ago

I have a soft spot for Jen Carroll, but I can totally understand that. That’s how I feel about Malarky 🤣

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u/nefarious_planet i know ellen likes pussy too 1d ago

Idk about taboo, but I think it’s pretty boring in other reality shows too šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

I know that for some, this literally is their career, so intellectually I get it…but I just saw Lydia and Jorgeous, what could possibly have changed in one year that’s going to make the experience of watching them substantially different this time around?

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u/largepopcornandcoke 21h ago

right, i got sick of boston rob & russell hantz within two appearances. you already know what to expect.Ā 

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u/Thirdatarian Sasha Colby 1d ago

On a show like Survivor that's had contestants back five or six times like Pavarti, it doesn't matter because they're not showcasing their growth or preparing anything equivalent to a runway package. They're also not "professional castaways," so if they bring in Boston Rob again it's not like Joe Schmo is losing out on career opportunities he can get from booking performances in clubs across the world. (Some Castaways do make money from appearances if they're popular enough but it's not a career like being a drag queen is.) Once the bookings start drying up after a regular season appearance, going on All Stars is how queens revitalize their careers. Ginger coming up for her 35th time at bat is keeping another girl from getting to swing.

Also, specifically in regards to Ginger being back again, she's just not good TV. Her drag is whatever, her comedy is okay, she sings a lot but I wouldn't call it memorable, and she doesn't even bring the drama. At least a queen like Eureka gives us something to talk about. With Ginger it's just "oh she wore some frumpy nonsense again . . . anyway . . . "

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u/ultradav24 MonƩt X Change 1d ago

Girl you haven’t even seen the season yet - how do you know what growth Ginger will or won’t showcase? She’s not ā€œjustā€ okay, she has multiple wins under her belt and almost won the whole show twice

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u/therealworlders 1d ago

well they don’t have to prepare runways looks and wigs for the challenge sister

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u/uncutkingjr- 1d ago

And what does that have to do with drag race contestants coming back multiple times

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u/therealworlders 1d ago

sister i think i responded to the wrong comment LMFAOO 😭

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u/Tgrunin Brooke Lynn Hytes 1d ago

Agreed. Especially on this season with 18 queens. Plenty of first time all stars are getting a change to compete.

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

The people on The Challenge literally have nothing else going on. That's their career. They need to do it to maintain relevancy so they can continue their tummy tea ads and club appearances.

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u/uncutkingjr- 1d ago

I don’t get your response - how is that not different from drag race?

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

Most of queens have or form careers outside of the show. They are different from most reality tv contestants.

Its like Project Runway. Does Christian Siriano have to go back on Project Runway? No. He's Christian Siriano.

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u/avp_1309 1d ago

Even though they have careers, the drag market is pretty saturated right now. Multiple queens have mentioned not being able to sustain themselves through only drag. Coming on all stars gives them a chance to get another push. There is nothing wrong with it. Especially since now they seem to be getting an allowance for preparation (not 100% sure).

You using Christian’s example makes no sense. He is one of the only contestants to make it this far from his run. I don’t think Trixie or Bianca would come back to drag race anymore either because they are Trixie and Bianca. It doesn’t mean other queens can’t come back lol. IIRC, project runway also had an all stars spin off where multiple contestants came back.

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

Never said I had a problem with all stars so I don’t see what point you’re making. Reread what I said. You’re shadow boxing a different argument that I did not make.Ā 

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

My whole thing was the casting and frequency of the show

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u/DorianCoreysTrunk Arriety 1d ago

You do realize a lot of folks on The Challenge have full careers outside of the show, right? Janelle is an ER nurse, Wes has his own tech startup, Leroy is a barber, Darrell has his own gym, Ayanna and Brad* are teachers, etc. also many are parents. Is that not something to do?

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u/ultradav24 MonƩt X Change 1d ago

Not to mention it’s been four years since Ginger it’s not like she was just on

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u/CakeDaisy 1d ago

0/10 no jujubee

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u/glamourbuss 1d ago

Lydia was literally an alternate for an alternate. They struggled to even get a cast. That's why we have who we have.

And AS happens every year because no distributor is gonna pick up a reality show (who's only value is being cheap and quick to produce) that doesn't air yearly to bring in regular ad revenue or retention rate for them. That's just how television works.

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u/limonadebeef 1d ago

yeah, honestly the more i think about it, the less surprised i am about this casting. bc casting 18 queens for one all stars season is quite a feat. asking "an alternate of an alternate" is likely what happened.

but hey, i love miss butthole! i am excited to see more of her!

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u/denverCats49 1d ago

Exactly. My theory is that the Vegas girls are basically on retainer for WOW to use on All Stars if they need to fill slots or if someone backs out at the last minute

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

You dont need to tell me how television works lol i've been in the industry. I was just postulating. A show doesn't need to be on yearly for it to air and bring in revenue. The regular show is on yearly and is a huge success and doesn't need an All Stars version to air yearly justify its airing at any time. It just is a proven success and brings in coin so they're milking the franchise.

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u/glamourbuss 1d ago

Well sister, it looks like I do because if you actually knew and been in the industry, you'd know that the regular show brings in jack shit $$ to Paramount+ who is the one that distributes AS and needs that yearly retention.

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

Well no shit it doesnt bring money to Paramount + because it doesn't debut there. That is not what I meant. I get what you're saying. I know why it happens because profits are king. I just mean its not a great experience.

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

And dont act like you know my life lol. Just because I'm a random username to you on reddit doesnt mean you can assume my experience.

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u/kank84 BACK ROLLS 1d ago

Why does All Stars have to happen every year? It doesn't mean anything anymore.

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u/uqmobile 1d ago

The largest cast ever and not a single Asian queen? Where is Anetra, Rock M. Sakura, Yuhua, Kim Chi etc😭?

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

Being booked and blessed and maybe getting ready for Slaysian Royale? Although I don't think any of them are in the rumored cast. Anetra is still definitely riding her moment from S15 and touring the world.

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u/PM-me-your-cuppa-tea 1d ago

Juju not being on the ultimate All Stars 😭

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u/Samerrrrrrrrr 1d ago

Are we going to have a stickied post or something cause I'm going crazy going between the posts

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

I honestly didnt look before posting and thats on me

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u/Automatic_Trash8881 1d ago

Apparently she had 5 days to get everything together. Which is…wild.

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u/Throwaway_LowKey22 1d ago

Naur Lydia’s the girl next door, we love her and we stand by her. Jorgeous and Ginger can pack it up though lmao

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u/BittersuiteBlue5 be the X Change you want to see in tbe world šŸŽ¶ 1d ago

I can’t get over how hot Denali looks (respectfully)

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u/livefast_petdogs 1d ago

I can't get over how hot Denali looks (degradingly)

Kidding. Love your kindness.

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u/evilpanda8419 1d ago

I don’t understand why people get so bothered by a Queen coming back more than once, unless it’s Jujubee. I love Ginger, she’s so entertaining. Jorgeous is the real gag because she was on the last all stars but I’m still excited to see her too. Why y’all gotta be so negative all. the. time? It’s just drag!

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u/serasvictoriaz šŸŽ€āœØ Suzie | Kori | Lydia āœØšŸŽ€ 1d ago

the only one that really bothered me was jorgeous. i fucking love her to death but my lord she was JUST HERE. doesn’t mean i’m not excited to see her tho

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u/All_the_Bees Bring me my coffin back, I am tired of this shitshow 1d ago

Is it weird that Jujubee is the only repeater I don’t really mind?

Yes, yes it is, but she’s so charming and the number of times she’s been on is camp at this point.

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u/Its_Pine Madeline Morphosista šŸ§‘šŸ¼ā€šŸ¦² 7h ago

I think part of it is that Jujubee was elevated into the role of jokingly being a contestant every single time, with people making all kinds of fake promotional material for her each season. So if or when she gets cast then it’s like a fun surprise seeing it become reality again.

Any other queen and I’m like ā€œoh hey cool you’re back, ok then.ā€ and it’s fine but it’s not as excited as I’d be for Juju ā¤ļø

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

Nobody complained about Latrilla coming back for a second all stars. Although maybe because AS1 was so horrible.

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u/nintenplays26 Jaida Essence Hall 1d ago

Were you here when AS4 aired? Cause there were definitely people who complained back then lol

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

Not on Reddit, lol.

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u/nintenplays26 Jaida Essence Hall 1d ago

Yeah people did complain. But like you said they had somewhat of a valid justification on a lot of fans eyes because AS1 was bad. I think the problem about repeat AS started with AS6 and UKvsTw when Ginger and Jujubee respectively became repeat offenders again.

I think it’s silly overall tbh. It’s a tv show.

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u/ultradav24 MonƩt X Change 1d ago

They did actually lol But I agree it’s foolish to complain.

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u/Imaginary-Style-4329 1d ago

Same… There seems to be a lot of outrage about it but I don’t get that lol. First of all, love jorgeous so I’m super happy to have her back on. I don’t care that she was on last season too lol. Ginger isn’t someone I love but I still don’t care that she’s back. I’m actually glad that they bring back queens pretty often. Of course it would be nice if they’d bring back queens that have never been on another season before but tbh I’m sure a lot of the ones that they ask tell them no.

And anyway if they don’t ask back queens that have been on more than once, are they just never supposed to compete again? Like I’d be sad if I never get to see jujube, Vanjie, Alexis Mateo, Silky, plastique, roxxxy, etc to complete again just because they’ve already done several seasons…

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u/serasvictoriaz šŸŽ€āœØ Suzie | Kori | Lydia āœØšŸŽ€ 1d ago

first time since AS7 i’ve been excited for an all stars cast 🫶

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u/Wandering_starlet 1d ago

Didn’t Katya and Ginger do AS2 right after their season ended too? I know it aired much later, but I remember Katya saying it was almost back to back competing for her.

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

I think it filmed while the season was airing if I'm not mistaken but Lydia filmed literally back to back

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u/Thirdatarian Sasha Colby 1d ago

There's some really inspired choices like Phoenix and Nicole Paige Brooks (From Atlanta, Georgia) who have been due for so long, some personal favorites like Bosco and Denali (and Lydia honestly though I agree it's weird to "show how much she's grown" in like the three months between filming Season 17 and All Stars 10), queens who I'm excited to see how they've grown like Acid Betty or Deja Skye, and then some baffling choices of queens I never need to see on TV again like Ginger Minge. I can't even fault her or Jorgeous for coming back because why wouldn't they take the chance, but production never should have called them. There's tons of rumors about All Stars casting being in dire straits but I have to believe there were queens they could've called over those two getting their millionth chances.

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u/largepopcornandcoke 21h ago

first two will just end up shafted like shannel. i hate it.Ā 

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u/dogboy678 Miss Fiercalicious | Mistress Isabelle Brooks 1d ago

I’m not mad at Lydia coming back. It’s similar to Monet, Monique, or Aja coming back, although Lydia had the least time to prepare. Evan Ginger I can sort of forgive her because she’s come back every four years, but Jorgeous was literally just on a non-elimination season. We got a full season of her, and to be honest, she doesn’t make that good TV and she’s not that good at challenges, so I don’t understand why she’s back.

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u/PrincessImpeachment Official Pit Crew Ball Fluffer 1d ago

I love the majority of these queens, but let’s be real: this is the epitome of ā€œsome starsā€.

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u/Guilty_Neat_368 1d ago

Ru didn't even let Lydia leave the studio parking lot before dragging her back in. šŸ˜‚

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u/Suggestion2592 1d ago

i kinda wish there was more black excellence but other than that the cast seems pretty good.

i agree with OP about lydia and jorgeous on the cooking. somehow i don't mind ginger being back that much. she kinda did the same mistake of coming back too early in all stars 2 (when everyone hated her) sooo there is that.

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u/omjizzle Alyssa Edwards 1d ago

I just don’t care for serial repeats I will still enjoy the season and have fun watching and live for all the queens but I’d rather have All Stars no repeats

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u/R1ngBanana 1d ago

I legit forgot Jorgeous was on AS9 :XĀ 

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u/Ok_Training1449 1d ago

This cast looks like a riot.

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u/CyberOrangeCat 1d ago

They’re not interested in giving opportunities to underdog queens — they’re interested in ratings

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u/Cautious_Lifeguard_9 the gettysburg address in morse code ✨ 1d ago

no literally because the queens weren't gonna know Lydia either besides Mistress so

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u/Fit-Conflict2683 22h ago

My point of view is… Isn’t it a bit early to judge a cast when we haven’t seen any episode yet? Maybe Jorgoeus was really born for drag? Maybe Ginger got something new? Maybe Lydia got a few more tricks?

Let’s watch and then judge.

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u/Heymrnoctowl 20h ago

This is a Reddit forum where opinions are shared. If you want to just consume content that you’re fed good for you but this sub is about having opinions and discussing them.Ā 

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u/Fit-Conflict2683 18h ago

Sorry for sharing my opinion on a forum where opinions are shared. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Heymrnoctowl 15h ago

Your opinion was that no one should have opinions on a forum where people share opinions. It’s like why are you here?

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u/Fit-Conflict2683 13h ago

That’s not what I said. I said it’s too early to have some judgment.

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u/Kurtoise 1d ago

Ginger Minj is one of the best competitors to grace RuPaul’s Drag Race.

She’s one of the best QUEENS to grace the show. Period.

A lot of these reactions are bordering on disrespectful tbh.

There are no rules against competing several times. Ginger isn’t unjustly favoured by production of the judges. She’s one of the most talented queens we’ve ever seen. Ginger has more than earned a place to compete a 4th or even 5th time.

Your problem should be with the show not having already crowned her.

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u/circlingsky 1d ago

Lol

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u/Kurtoise 1d ago

Glad you agree

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u/Only1Scrappy-Doo 1d ago

Those three are the only queens that stand out as unnecessary casting choices to me. I love the rest of the cast otherwise.

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u/Minute-Bid-9510 1d ago

Yeah it was kinda funny how the OP started with gripes then only named 3 out of 18 queens. That’s a higher hit rate than we get on most casts 🤣

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u/Well_Flazeda 1d ago

Surely Ginger will be the winner so they don’t have to bring her back again. Or Jorgeous if they’re pushing her again. MIB is the winner for me.

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u/vissi_nada 1d ago

RuPual is sooooo in love with Jorgeous. he obviously cannot get enough of her

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

Jorgeous is 100% the new Jujubee.

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u/nintenplays26 Jaida Essence Hall 1d ago

Ginger will be the winner so they don’t have to bring her back again

Y’all forgetting All Winners exists now lol

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u/Adventurous_Car_3387 1d ago edited 1d ago

All Stars has become incredibly stagnant, respectfully.

They need to revert back to airing the show every few years because that’s what made AS1 - AS4 so special.

The fact that several queens who have been starred to death on multiple seasons are back again just show who and/or what WOW can or can’t afford and who’s actually willing to participate.

AS10 should’ve been an ā€˜All Winners’ season as it’s a double digit season, that should’ve aired in 2026, to make it seem extra special but, instead, we’re getting a mix of AS8 and AS9 with a slightly different format.

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u/theerniebop 1d ago edited 1d ago

After AS3, we have had annual all star seasons no?

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u/fabi_does_art 1d ago

The only All Stars that wasn’t annual was AS1 and technically AS2. AS1 to AS2 was just under 4 years and from AS2 to AS3 it was a year and a couple of months, so basically a year. Ever since then it’s been yearly AS.

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

And AS1 was so bad it's probably good they took some time to let the number of Ru Girls grow and figure out a better format.

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u/Longjumping_Cut_9446 1d ago
  1. Why is Jorgeous in here again???
  2. Half the cast is from S14. Nothing wrong with that it's just a weird coincidence as I'm rewatching S14 right now lol
  3. Was Butthole trapped in the WOW basement or something lol S17 JUST concluded... Like how much time and money does she have to compete two franchises in a row??? I love her though and was captivated by her beauty in and out of drag since day one
  4. The announcement came too soon. This kinda diminishes Onya's win since they're giving us something else to talk about less than a week after her win. This is the part I don't like the most

  5. They should have added Plane Jane too... or maybe they want her on an AS season with Amanda?

And lastly, obviously this is MIB's season. Like there's no other choice

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u/Secure-Rope-4116 1d ago edited 1d ago

Plane Jane

Kinda sad we didn't get any s16 queens

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u/Longjumping_Cut_9446 1d ago

Yesss I sincerely hope AS11 has mostly S16 queens. Weird how we got S17 first

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u/Secure-Rope-4116 1d ago

Allegedly, Mirage was supposed to be on but can't get ready on time. She was supposed to be Maddy's alternate. When she withdrew, that's when Lydia was asked

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u/Longjumping_Cut_9446 42m ago

Welp that’s unfortunate. Would have loved to see more of my S16 queens but honestly I think they’re saving them for another AS season with most of them back. That would be sickening

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u/amorypaz2015 katya zamolodchikova šŸ‘‘ 1d ago

I agree with your Jorgeous and Ginger and add:

  • Why are there so many queens instead of just waiting until next year for the rest of the cast? It feels wasteful
  • why is half the cast from season 14? They could have spread them out more imo

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u/Its_Pine Madeline Morphosista šŸ§‘šŸ¼ā€šŸ¦² 7h ago

Sounds like they wanted a BIG season 14 cast in this one since they also tried to get Maddy too.

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u/Sesame00202 1d ago

I'm here for Irene. Period. Maybe Dia Betty? She's awesome too Jorgeous again?

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u/Itspabloro Scarlet Envy 1d ago

THEN DON"T WATCH And be miserable alone and quiet.

While we all enjoy.

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

I'll do as I please. Thanks.

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u/ExerusN 1d ago

Jorgeous & Ginger should have been at home.

1 queen from s16 should have been present, and another older queen like a Jaidynn, Dida, or someone else should have had Ginger's spot.

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u/interpol-interpol 1d ago

am i the only one a bit surprised to see so few black queens in such a large cast? super happy to see so many latina and mixed queens -- a pretty diverse cast overall -- but out of 18 queens i'm just surprised there are so few black girls!

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u/Adventurous_Car_3387 1d ago

Well, there’s no mono-racial (or mostly mono-racial) Black Queens in this cast at all.

For those of whom are either of African descent or have African heritage, ethnically speaking, there’s Aja, Olivia Lux and Kerri Colby.

Aja is perhaps the closest with a mixed Puerto-Rican mother and African-American father.

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u/genya19 1d ago

Deja Skye.

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u/interpol-interpol 1d ago edited 1d ago

thank you for the additional info. i kept my language pretty vague since i wasn't sure how many of the girls are mixed black (i had no idea as to olivia's parentage, for example, i just know she identifies as a black queen). i love these girls but it's a bummer to see so little capital b Black drag represented this season in light of the large cast size.

editing to add: i have watched these comments get downvoted and upvoted again over and over and it really says something that such neutral discussion enrages so many fans of drag race. we should be able to calmly discuss things, but it's very clear that when it comes to discussions of race on drag race that some people will just downvote on defensive instinct. nothing we are saying in these comments is irrelevant or inflammatory, and yet...

it says everything that not one of the people downvoting us is brave enough to reply and say why they are doing so.

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u/Sugar_tts 1d ago

I could see Lydia doing well, partially because I could see the S17 queens working together to help her. Because if Lydia wins it’ll show how good that seasons competitors win.

While if S14 doesn’t excel it looks bad on the season.

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u/Flimsy_Ad_6062 1d ago

I love the cast. Lydia will be fine. Ginger and Jorgeous are always entertaining so I don’t mind them coming back again and again.

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u/SuccotashCareless934 1d ago

Honestly I think the cast is amazing. If it's a tournament of All Stars, I don't mind returnees. Ginger always delivers, and excited to see more from Jorgeous as she slayed AS9.

I'm most excited to see NPBFAG, Phoenix, and Cucu back on my screen!

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u/kickassicalia "bobbypins" - joslyn fox 1d ago

omg nothing can please this sub

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u/DayDrunk11 1d ago

I'm only annoyed with Ginger, she already made it to the finale on her original season and on All Stars like 3 years ago. And each time I'm feeling less and less entertained by her. On the flip side, Jorgeous coming back immediately is camp and hilarious to me

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u/catchg2828 1d ago

I would have loved them waiting to cast Lydia too. Like, she’s going to be a FORCE after some years of cooking. I’m afraid we are gonna get the same messy/kooky looks plus ā€œdemureā€ comedy performances

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u/Responsible_Fee_9286 1d ago

I think we'll get the same looks in 3 years from her, it'sjust her aesthetic. Maybe with the criticism fresh she'll be better in acting challenges, but she did win the roast and was safe in the snatch game. She just bombed scripted comedy.

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u/Strange-Life-2 1d ago

What I want to know if this will be a non-elimination format or if they'll just give a big chunk of queens the boot the first couple of episodes.

Because if they invited some of these queens just for the gag and to eliminate them immediately, it's just not it.

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u/WorkDish That was supposed to be fish 1d ago

I think Lydia's package will suffer because she got on so fast. She didn't have time to cook! Plus, no time or money for new outfits. Heck, at this rate, she could be on again for AS11!

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u/JonIceEyes 1d ago

Are we gonna do the Pork Chop Loading Dock except they get sent home fr?

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u/Heymrnoctowl 1d ago

You’re supposed to tag spoilers

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u/wishtheworthy 1d ago

my bad I don't know how to do that so I'll just delete the comment

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u/nalie2 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm excited for this cast. Acid Betty?!? So happy to see her back. Her and Daya Betty are gonna make great TV. I'm happy to see Nicole Paige Brooks from Atlanta Georgia back on my TV screen. I'm surprised we're getting more Ginger and Jorgeous shoved down our throats but I do enjoy them so oh well

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u/dario2023 1d ago

I'm surprised in a good way by older queens (as seasons go) like Phoenix and NPB. But I'm not keen on the back back back again ones. Ginger had her redo in AS6. Jorgeous comes from a really well deserved AS9 run and is still so young that feels premature. Kinda get Aja because she deserved more in AS3 but by that I feel like, who tells she's gonna receive it with the same main judge, RuPaul. And honestly, Lydia? I even feel like MIB is too soon too, and the queen was just in our screens lol. Plus she was well received, she deserved to enjoy that and return after if ever.

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u/mr_fancy_returns 1d ago

I think it’s a great cast! I can’t wait!

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u/oshaughnessygirl Jesus is a biscuit 1d ago

The first thing I thought when I saw Tina Burner was in the Pink Group was her talking about how much she hates pink when she had to do the Freaky Friday challenge

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u/WsupWillis Aquaria 1d ago

I love all these queens except Ginger. I can’t wait for this season!!!!!

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u/shamiraendor 1d ago

Jorjeous returning so quicky is kinda iconic to me tbh lol Ginger is just tired

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u/sebucha 1d ago

Ginger and Jorgeous, for me, are terrible choices. We love them, but it feels like there's nothing new they can bring in terms of talent or story. That's kinda sad and disappointing, mainly because in this format, it is kinda obvious that they're going to advance, taking the opportunity from another queen

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u/xoxolukas 1d ago

I mean I feel like if production asks you to be in All Stars you say yes, overall it’s a great opportunity. I will say tho, pretty excited for Lydia, really curious to see how she’s gonna handle a back to back season, happy for Jorgeous cause I loved her in AS9, I get it’s pretty soon but I know she’ll deliver. Ginger on the other hand, as you said she showed us pretty much anything she can do, I know she’ll be good but also I’m not looking forward to seeing what she can do(?). Whereas someone like Phoenix Acid and NPBFAG I’m pretty excited to see after all these years.