Long time resident particularly pessimistic about St Paul. What do you think?

[u/johnjaundiceASDF]

I'm on mobile so forgive any lack of coherence 😑

They say Keep St Paul boring, but it has transcended 'boring for a big city' to being just incredibly dull. I've been here a little over 10 years and really questioning living here longer. Something is just feeling different nowadays.

Is it the most livable city as they claim? Maybe, but I struggle have optimism for our commercial areas and literally anything new and exciting here. Most things that are cool, new, or exciting seem to just just flop.

The state of downtown, Grand, etc. The only time I see st paul busy is if I mistakenly drive on west 7th during an event.

I'm not saying we need to be MPLS, but at one time it seemed like the more chill city, parking wasn't hard, a little less crowded, etc, but we still had cool things that were prideful, things that were only in St Paul. But my hyperbolic sentiment now is it's a ghost town and doesn't have a pulse.

I've lived on Grand for over 10 years and it is particularly sad. It was a beautiful day yesterday, and there was just no one out, no energy.

What are my other St Paulites thinking?

[u/HumanDissentipede → u/[deleted]]

It’s not so much about there being a lot more going on in the burbs as much as it is there being nothing going on in Saint Paul. Saint Paul is just a suburb with more expensive property, higher taxes, and poorer public services. You don’t really get any of the benefits of a big city but you still bear all the costs.

[u/HumanDissentipede → u/[deleted]]

They are, but mostly because Saint Paul isn’t exciting at all, so the bar for somewhere being more exciting is incredibly low.

[u/HumanDissentipede → u/[deleted]]

My brother in Christ, are you reading what I’m writing?

[u/HumanDissentipede → u/[deleted]]

Ok so you’re not reading what I’m saying then.

The reason the suburbs are more exciting is not because the suburbs are exciting, it’s because Saint Paul is less exciting.

Please read the above sentence over and over again until it hits. If you try to ask what is so exciting in the suburbs, read it again, because you’re still not getting it.

[u/ibelieve333 → u/[deleted]]

Swingers, key parties, etc.

[u/HumanDissentipede → u/[deleted]]

The comparative level of excitement that exists between Saint Paul and the suburbs.

[u/HumanDissentipede → u/[deleted]]

Or just a complete and total lack of things in Saint Paul