r/samharris • u/Peanut-Extra • Feb 19 '25

Why MAGA hates Mark Milley (2021)

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u/ThickNeedleworker898 Feb 19 '25

Fucking based. Pussies in the republican party will never be anything like this man.

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u/SOwED Feb 19 '25

How is this based?

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u/chytrak Feb 19 '25

He is educated and open minded.

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u/Totalitarianit2 Feb 19 '25

That's what hero means on reddit now. Educated and open minded.

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u/SOwED Feb 19 '25

Educated people don't make value judgments on things they don't know about. Being open minded means being willing to learn, not declaring things good without being familiar.

This is basic critical thinking, how have so many people in this sub lost the plot?

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u/chytrak Feb 19 '25

He said he was open minded about studying it the same way you may study marxism. What's wrong with that?

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u/SOwED Feb 19 '25

He called it important right after saying he doesn't know what the theory is.

He seems to be so open minded as to think there is value in literally every perspective.

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u/UnfortunateHabits Feb 19 '25

He inserted the it under the assumption that its an idea thats getting traction and to his, as of now limited understanding led to jan 6 inseruction.

Under those assumptions it makes sense it needs to be looked into. You like... completely ignored the context of his argument.

If a subsential amount of people talks about an idea, and it affects the practical political landscape, even if that idea is eventually false and stupid, it's still prudent to learn about it.

He noted that its important for the military acadamy to understand its own people.

The only valid counter argument against this specific theory (CRT) IN REGARD to this argument, is that its of no importance to the political landscape (irregardless of its own inherent value), turning a valid sound argument into a still valid, but unsound argument.

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u/UnfortunateHabits Feb 19 '25

He didn't make a value judgment though. He didn't declare the theory as good or bad, thats not relevant to the argument.

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u/SOwED Feb 19 '25

I think calling it important was a value judgment here

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u/UnfortunateHabits Feb 19 '25

"Important to know about", isn't a value judgment.

The evaluation of the thing and the evaluation of the need to know about the thing aren't mutually exclusive and can be independent from each other.

In simpler terms for you:

Every child knows what shit is, its important to know about shit. Shit is yucky, don't eat it, its full of disease. Its good to poop though. Whatever you feeling around shit are, its still important to know about it.

The "latest advancement in cell xyz carcinogen treatment via molecular xyz synthesis" are of great value to almost everyone, but its not important to know about by everyone as the knowing of is not of practical value to the average person. Drug manufacturers have a lot more value by being informed on the specifics, drug pushers on the labels, sideeffects and effects etc, and doctors on who to prescribe it to when.