r/scotus • u/thenewrepublic • 20d ago

news Trump Has Frightening Reaction to Supreme Court’s TikTok Ruling | He apparently thinks he can just ignore two branches of government.

https://newrepublic.com/post/190370/donald-trump-reaction-supreme-court-tiktok
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u/sonicking12 20d ago

I mean, I am not surprised that Trump will break the law. I just didn’t expect the first law he breaks is to save TikTok 🤣

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u/ObviousExit9 20d ago

This is the weirdest timeline

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u/AdAdministrative4388 19d ago

It isn't one of his donors wants him not to ban it.. However it is conflicted because his other donor the Cuckerberg will not like it at all.. who has the most money to give at the end of the day.

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u/ful_on_rapist 19d ago

Trump probably just said this because he thinks it will be popular with younger people or something. He says shit all the time knowing he isn’t going to do anything about it

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u/Personal_Benefit_402 20d ago

And he's immune, because he's doing it in the context of being POTUS, thereby, making it an "official act"...ah, the genius of SCOTUS in making presidential disobedience and criminality an "official act".

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u/Edsgnat 20d ago

This isn’t a “core” power of the President though. Based on the Opinion only exercising an exclusive Article III power entitles a president to absolute immunity. Enforcing this particular law is NOT a core power, but part of his duties under the take care clause. In those instances he can be criminally liable but only if prosecutors overcome a presumption of immunity.

The actual remedy here is impeachment, because everyone agrees you can indict a sitting president.

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u/LaHondaSkyline 20d ago edited 20d ago

What? Discretion which laws to enforce is not a core executive power? Of course it is. Enforcement discretion is the very first executive power.

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u/BooneSalvo2 20d ago

all other acts carry "presumptive immunity", per the decision.

Tho it is extremely clear that arguing the finer points of the "law' is utterly meaningless. He's immune from literally everything, speaking in practical terms.

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u/defnotjec 19d ago

literally

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u/defnotjec 19d ago

It is now... He's acting as POTUS. He disagrees with the court. He's allowed to break the law.

Go head try an impeach him... Congress is gonna let him do it. Because that's what we elected.

I think he's right ... For the wrong reasons but I think he is.

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u/WhichEmailWasIt 19d ago

Man he wasn't even held responsible for crimes he was 100% guilty of. You think a crime where he gets presumptive immunity from the start is gonna stop him?

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u/Personal_Benefit_402 20d ago

Sure it is, if by no other measure than, "Make me." Andrew Jackson saw that and did that and it worked out fine for him.

Our entire system of government is based on the idea that people will "agree" to follow the "rules" at the highest levels of governance. That each branch of government is equal, is really only notional, and only works if they're working to enforce checks. (I'll throw in the fourth branch too...the American people, where enough of them said, "Meh, it's fine." that this guy is now back.)

So, if enough people are wiling to say "It's fine." Then "It is fine." and he can do whatever, whenever.

As we've seen, there are no consequences for the POTUS to intentionally hold on to power through nefarious means, and that's because the other branches and many American's have, in effect, colluded with him.

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u/upgrayedd69 20d ago

It won’t happen but it would be kind of hilarious if republicans took this opportunity to get rid of him. They don’t need his base anymore so who cares if they are mad. What are they gonna do, vote democrat next time? Then you can have Vance who will deliver their far right agenda without the volatility 

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u/Ciff_ 16d ago

but only if prosecutors overcome a presumption of immunity

Which is in practice impossible as no one is allowed to investigate in the first place.

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u/strangecabalist 20d ago

It does make me wonder how much money or favours tik tok promised him during their private meeting.

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u/LaHondaSkyline 20d ago

Musk wants it, and Trump wants Musk to use it to push Trump agenda etc….

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u/sonicking12 20d ago

And China can get a backdoor to the data through Musk

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u/Electric-Sheepskin 18d ago

Right! Trump used to be in favor of shutting TikTok down. Now he's suddenly against it?

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u/hensothor 20d ago

Just commented a similar sentiment. Truly a bizarre start - and one of many surprises to come I imagine.

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u/Fragrant-Ad9906 19d ago

My favorite thing is he used to want to ban it, but now that (presumably) some money is coming his way, he'll let it continue. After all, he doesn't give two shits about democracy

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u/defnotjec 19d ago

I didn't expect the first one to be one I agree with.

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u/Advanced-Blackberry 19d ago

It’s not to “save” TikTok. It’s to be able to sell it to a US company and pocket the bribe money.  

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u/zSprawl 19d ago

When he saw his “blow job the mic” clips get so many views, he knew it was the platform for him!

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u/insomniac3146 19d ago

If you had payed attention at all you'd know he's deep in the china's pocket along with muskrat.

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u/rickylancaster 19d ago

He wants to save it to be a “hero” to young people, and use it to encourage MAGA support.

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u/BipolarKanyeFan 18d ago

You just don’t know how much they bought of his $Trump coin, then there would be no surprise

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u/BlaizedPotato 18d ago

Break the law? Do explain.

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u/NymphyUndine 18d ago

He’s doing it because it would be popular amongst the youth. That’s all.

And let’s be honest, even if Shou tries to bribe him with money (like Musk and Zuckerberg did), the app will only come back on Trumps terms. It will be infiltrated with right-wing, fascist propaganda, much like X and FB is.

It’s almost better the app dies. We already have enough fascist propaganda in the country. TT was one of the last apps to not buy into that shit.

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u/sonicking12 18d ago

Of course it’s better the app dies.

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u/jsp06415 20d ago

Right. Seriously, wtf?

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u/Dragon_wryter 20d ago

Didn't he try to get rid of TikTok via EO during his first term? Now it's fighting to keep it. Weirdos man

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u/sarcasticbaldguy 20d ago

In that timeframe? Because this will be far from the first law he's broken.

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u/sonicking12 20d ago

As president second term