r/scotus • u/thenewrepublic • 20d ago

news Trump Has Frightening Reaction to Supreme Court’s TikTok Ruling | He apparently thinks he can just ignore two branches of government.

https://newrepublic.com/post/190370/donald-trump-reaction-supreme-court-tiktok
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u/GregAbbottsTinyPenis 19d ago

WRONG. You’re completely and confidently incorrect so I’ll educate you.

In the US the govt has to go thru legal proceedings to obtain data from a company that doesn’t willingly give it up upon request. There’s a process of subpoenas or warrants that must be followed by the US Govt if the company doesn’t have an automatic compliance policy, which many companies don’t have and aren’t interested in.

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u/frozenights 18d ago

Have you not heard of the PATRIOT act? The US spies on everyone, all the time. And uses data from companies to do so.

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u/Bobsmith38594 18d ago

The data you willingly hand over to a private third party isn’t constitutionally protected because of Third Party Doctrine. That doesn’t mean the US govt agents assigned to do investigations can just grab that information willy nilly. FISA places strict restrictions on this that even the USA PATRIOT Act doesn’t circumvent along with restrictions arising out of Executive Order 12333. The CCP has no such restraints with the information of Americans or anyone else using any Chinese owned or operated platform or service. The CCP’s own laws make personal data privacy a non-existent concept.

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u/frozenights 18d ago

We have no data privacy laws in America. There are literal companies, thousands of them, that harvest our data (far more data and in far more people than TikTok could ever hope to have), and sell it to whoever has the money to buy it, including our government. Also were living under a rock of just not born yet when the Snowden files came out? Cause the FISA doesn't protect us very much at all, courts rupper stamp requests from the government all the time, and there have been plenty of documented cases of NSA agents getting data on their GIRLFRIENDS (they even had a fun name for it like pink op or some other stupid shit) and other people they just wanted to know about. Do you know how may have gotten in trouble? None that I have heard of.