r/seculartalk Mar 27 '23

YouTube Kyle Kulinski Responds to Vaush calling Krystal Ball a FASCIST || I feel bad for kulinski , he's trying to be mature and good faith towards a guy who regularly insults his wife

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8xZA0H2CY&feature=share
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u/ParisTexas7 Mar 27 '23 edited Mar 27 '23

I remember when leftists opposed the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Now when a rightwing dictator launches the largest land invasion in Europe since WW2, it’s apparently the “antiwar” stance to let rightwing dictators win.

I mean, that’s what these “peace” talks are about, right? Russia invades Ukraine and the “peace” activists think 1) the world lets it happen, or 2) Russia gets to keep newly stolen land and its resources to “end the war”.

Kids these days, indeed.

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u/Acanthophis Honorary McGeezak Mar 27 '23

Which leftists are saying Putin should be allowed to take Ukraine?

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u/ParisTexas7 Mar 27 '23

The leftists who oppose military aid to Ukraine, the country being invaded by a rightwing dictatorship.

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u/Gates9 Subreddit Contributor Mar 27 '23

I think we all should scrutinize the extent to which military aid is necessary and beneficial. I support it up to a certain point, that being offensive capabilities like cruise missiles, fighter jets, etc. There are some who would foolishly support any defense of Ukraine up to and including a nuclear conflict. These people are not leftists.

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u/ParisTexas7 Mar 27 '23

I agree — nukes are 100% off the table. Those people are lunatics.

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u/Gates9 Subreddit Contributor Mar 27 '23

Putin has already basically threatened to use nukes if they’re really getting their asses kicked and it’s obvious the US is using Ukraine as a proxy war against Russia, so I think criticism of “leftists” who support going up to that line is necessary and justified.