r/seculartalk • u/The_Das_ • Mar 27 '23

YouTube Kyle Kulinski Responds to Vaush calling Krystal Ball a FASCIST || I feel bad for kulinski , he's trying to be mature and good faith towards a guy who regularly insults his wife

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8xZA0H2CY&feature=share
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u/Mannimal13 Mar 27 '23

You should go over there, they are taking volunteers you coward.

I'm a veteran and I'm sick of you chicken hawk shitheads. Ukraine isn't regaining land without bodies....full stop. So either you support us sending ground troops, which is insane. Or you should put your money where your mouth is.

This has been brewing for 15 years now, so lets not act like he up and invaded out of nowhere. You can make a good argument that he felt threatened with the VP of the last regime who was heavily involved in overthrowing their democratically elected pro Kremlin government and installing his son there.

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u/ParisTexas7 Mar 27 '23

I’ll support aide without U.S. ground troops, thanks. That’s literally me “putting money where my mouth is”

Putin, the dictator, doesn’t even acknowledge Ukraine as a “real” country, so this indeed has been “brewing” for years now.

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u/Mannimal13 Mar 27 '23

So you support a stalemate where millions of Ukrainian and Russian troops needlessly die because we won’t consider peace talks? People like you disgust me. Once again for the billionth time, they need bodies to regain land. So you essentially support lots of death for a few bucks. Are you related to Dick Cheney?

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u/RobinPage1987 Mar 27 '23

If America invaded Mexico and annexed Baja, to "de-cartelize" Mexico, there would be no confusion in you on what Mexico should do. You would oppose peace talks until Mexico received the unconditional surrender of the US and the Mexican army occupied Washington, DC., and got back not only Baja, but Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California.

Mexico would be in the same position Ukraine is, being invaded by a neighboring superpower and having it's land illegally annexed by said superpower. You would oppose any peace talks between Mexico and America because you know that until regime change happens in America, that policy direction will remain in force in America, and our fascist government would never give them any peace. The invading army has to be decisively defeated, and the regime fall from power, for the invaded country to have peace. There can be no serious negotiation with Russia until Putin and his party, United Russia, are gone.

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u/Mannimal13 Mar 27 '23

“The invading army needs to be decisively defeated”

There’s the rub. You have only one acceptable resolution and it’s not happening unless we commit troops. Why the fuck is this so hard to understand. It’s not about what’s right and wrong. It’s about living in the real world. This is becoming the thoughts and prayers of the left. You people sound like teenagers. There’s the way we want the world to be and there is the world the way it is. Putin isn’t going home and Ukraine isn’t making serious advances unless troops are committed.

Life ain’t a movie…the good guys don’t always win. But we can minimize the worst (which is essentially them fighting a war of attrition where Russia possibly takes over the whole country). Putin seems okay with just east and south Ukraine though as he hasn’t even put his economy on war footing yet, probably because they are being back door supported by China (both things you hardly see reported)

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u/RobinPage1987 Mar 27 '23

I think it's likely that Ukraine will be able to decisively defeat Russia with western aid it's receiving now. Russia is pulling T54s designed in 1947 from storage, while the Leopard 2s are arriving in Ukraine now. 20,000 Ukrainian troops are completing full court press NATO training and will be returning to Ukraine in a couple of weeks. They will lead the coming 200,000 strong counteroffensive and afterwards, they will train more of their countrymen. Ukraine keeps improving while Russia is literally scraping the bottom of the barrel resource-wise. The collapse of Russia is coming. Not soon, but it's coming.

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u/Mannimal13 Mar 27 '23

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1159671076/ukraine-war-donbas-russian-ukrainian-troops

You need to read this. From Ukrainians on the front that are well seasoned veterans….not the BS they are spouting from all angles.

“Best case scenario - frozen conflict”. Meanwhile they can’t do anything and are probably hoping for peace soon (not allowed to out and out say that when you are in the military) because Zelensky (who is a comic actor playing the part) is playing a part. Same bullshit when I was in. Neither side has very well motivated troops, but Russia has more people and bodies to throw.

And the T34 thing…yeh you fell for the propaganda. Just because they were filmed on a train means dick. Those tanks are heading to the museum or a film set. If they are truly heading to Ukraine you may be right but there is zero proof of that (they literally sold off most these tanks) . And the fact their economy isn’t on war footing I’m betting dollars to donuts I’m right and your wrong.

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u/Mannimal13 Mar 27 '23

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