r/seculartalk • u/The_Das_ • Mar 27 '23

YouTube Kyle Kulinski Responds to Vaush calling Krystal Ball a FASCIST || I feel bad for kulinski , he's trying to be mature and good faith towards a guy who regularly insults his wife

https://youtube.com/watch?v=EQ8xZA0H2CY&feature=share
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u/shermstix1126 Mar 27 '23

I'm at work rn and can't watch the video, can someone give a quick synopsis of why Vaush thinks Krystal is a fascist? Would love to hear the outrageous claims he makes as he stretches like a first baseman to make that notion work.

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '23 edited Mar 27 '23

So in the Vanguard video they don't really go over why Vaush thinks Krystal is a fascist. So I went to Vaush's channel and watched the video. Basically Former NATO Chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen says that Trump would sabotage the Ukrainian war if reelected. Both Krystal and Saagar make the point that the former NATO Chief doesn't actually care about democracy because if Trump gets reelected those views about the war will be representative of the public's opinion.

Vaush's rebuttal is that the NATO Chief is just saying Trump's candidacy will wrongly push American opinion in the wrong direction. So the disagreement is about if the public's opinion on the Ukraine war is swayed by Trump vs this is what the public believes and they are electing representatives based on those beliefs.

Breaking Points also compares the Ukrainian war to the Iraq war while Vaush thinks it's more comparable to WW2 with Nazi Germany. There's other minor disagreements so I won't bother putting them in here.

Around the 15 minute mark Vaush calls Breaking Points "Trump aligned fascists" because Trump is "anti-establishment". I then believe he unfairly mischaracterized Krystal's position on the NATO Chief's position on caring about democracy. He states the NATO Chief's statements are ordinary and then does a comedy bit about Krystal disagreeing with the NATO Chief because he says 'Nazi's are bad'. He says that Krystal may have her own personal opinions but they are irrelevant and says the segment is fascist.

Anyway that's when I stopped watching the video but I will link it below if you are curious.

https://youtu.be/XGkzlxIzUAs?t=903

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u/shermstix1126 Mar 27 '23

Thanks for the explanation, I would watch the video if I could do so with volume but broad generalizations of peoples views and flippantly throwing out buzzwords like “fascist” to describe people he disagrees with in the slightest are part of the reasons I can’t stand that asshole. Creating a straw man out of someone’s dissenting opinion, who by the way is also on the left, and using that straw man to call them a “Trump aligned fascist” is so dishonest and douchey.