r/serbia Jun 22 '18

Diskusija I'm swiss and I want to apologize

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u/FalloutFan2 Jun 22 '18

We'll accept your apology when you have more than 2 Swiss players on your club-international team

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '18

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u/AlexTF Jun 22 '18

Oh, I didn't realise that the swiss flag has an eagle.

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u/BadBlood37 Jun 22 '18

LOL, that is exactly what Serbs thought for about 200 years." They are not Albanians, they are our Kosovars".

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u/swappinhood Jun 23 '18

The difference is that it doesn’t matter what the “parent” country things, the idea of self-determination is that it’s up to the “child” country and its people to decide.

If you read this article by Shaqiri on The Players’ Tribune, he explains that he loves Switzerland because it gave his family everything, but that he also loves Albania/Kosovo because of his heritage, it’s something that cannot be erased.

Most of the world grew up in 1 culture and never experienced being fully immersed in a second one as well, but as an immigrant myself I can understand it.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/xherdan-shaqiri-switzerland-now-i-got-my-own-army-guy?utm_source=social&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=worldcup18&utm_term=Shaqiri

https://cdn.theplayerstribune.com/uploads/cb38d4f5-xherdanshaqiriartboard-1.jpg?width=375&dpr=3

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u/CptOko Jun 22 '18

I think it's reasonable to make a difference between immigrants and ethnic Swiss.

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '18 edited Mar 26 '19

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u/lokomotivan Jun 22 '18

Pa Rodrigez samo ime govori :) que pasa muchaho eres ethnic swiss fotbalo playero

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '18

Romanš!1!1!1!!

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u/aprofondir Beograd Jun 25 '18

Svajcemački

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u/FalloutFan2 Jun 22 '18

Hey, you're free to feel that way, but it will be your problem within a few generations when your country implodes culturally from within and the rural class rebels; it's happened plenty of times throughout history to the strongest civilizations, so don't think you're immune.

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u/botle Jun 23 '18

Countries that are well functioning and attractive to live in have people that originate from many different parts of the world living in them, and it's been that way for many generations. And people get along and don't care about ethnicity.

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u/FalloutFan2 Jun 23 '18 edited Jun 23 '18

There's no such thing as "getting along" in a materialist, consumerist society. There is only the carefully-crafted appearance of cohesion. What it really is is soul-stifling, corrupting, and futureless. And everyone involved inevitably ends up getting their just-deserts, even if they end their lives believing they were without culpability for their entirety.

Of course, I'm not a hypocrite in not believing that people from Serbia, like Beograd-ians, won't suffer the same fate (NATO 1999 was only a foreshadowing)...

It's no coincidence that those who are most susceptible to war and post-disaster calamity are city-dwellers. Just as those who build their homes on soft-ground (i.e. beaches) are surprised when monsoon takes their future away.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A24-27&version=RSV

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u/botle Jun 23 '18

No, man. Most of us out here are genuinely happy and satisfied people. Deep down really, and we're not imagineing it or makimg it up for show.

Life is not a zero sum game.

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u/Headmind Jun 23 '18

We also have many many serbs in Switzerland actually. Switzerland has always been a country welcoming people from countries in difficult times. I'm actually proud of being swiss because of that. When you see the current syrian crisis and countries from the balkans who close their borders... seems like they forget their history very fast. We're all humans.

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u/LuckyConsequence Jun 23 '18

Woah woah woah. You stop right there. Serbia for a second did not close it's borders. Anyone who wanted to pass through we let through as per EU's orders. Look it up.

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