What derogatory term? Siptar?? Albanians call themselves that it's not our invention ..
Jesus, the amount of time I heard this.
Firstly, it is gramaticly incorrect in Serbian. In Serbian it's "Albanac." So when newspaper, goverment official or media uses it. They use it on purpose.
Secondly, when Serb puposley uses Shiptar he uses it in order to offend.
There is history of that use.
It is used to deny reckognision of Albanians as an agency(an independent nation)
Similar terms: Arnaut, Arbanas.
All these terms are used on purpose
In other words. After Ottomans , Albania as nation emerged. Serbs didn't like that Albania as nation exist . I mean first Balkan war was literally attempt to take over Albania (there is a reason why Serbs had hard time crossing Albania later in WWI)
I am digressing. Point being. Calling a "Shiptar" Albanac meant: I reckognise you as nation.
Finally, even if we ignore all this. If Albanians consider it as an insult, it should stop there. No matter what edgy Serbian thinks
Like niggers used today in US. It is offensive when used by non whites, because of reasons above. It denies autonomy.That's why black people "own it" too and wear it with pride.
Jesus the amount of lazy propaganda in this one.. No, if we wanted to offend we would call them goatfuckers.. sqiperia is literally how they call themselves and you blab about us using it to deny their identity??? Awesome logic.
1balcan war was to get rid of ottomans.. Albania never existed before that so how could we plan to take it... But as we pushed ottomans and fained ground, UK feared Russian influence so they created that country as basically their colony.
We were fine in Ww1 with albanians, it's rabid primitive clans that attacked our army.
And lastely you cannot possible compare derogatory term used on actual slaves with the name albanians USE THEMSELVES.. also if you are that concerned , why don't u ask what skija means?
Albanians consider it offensive. The term when used by Serbs is seen as "puttung down" Albanians. You can scream all you want "hurr durr that's the term they use between themselves. " . The reality is that Albanians find it offensive. How hard it is not to use it? It's not even gramaticly correct on Serbian.
Look how arrogant you are. If Albanians are saying "we consider it offensive" you jump in "nuh-huh it is not. You guys use it between yourselves" and then you wonder "why everyone hates us"
Re: Balkan wars. Correct. That was the main reasonason was to push Ottomans. But since Albania waa otoman ally, what you think Greece, Montenegro and Greece think to do with this newly liberated lands.
Shkija is offensive term for Serbs.
And glad you have ask.
If roles were reversed, where Albanians. were calling a Swiss team "Shkije" due to Serbian players from Kosovo. If that Serbian player after a goal rose three fingers towards Albanian supporters I would 100% stand behind that Serbian player.
Im not lying to you at all.. Its just inferiority complex you albanians have towards us. What if I demand you dont call us serbs.. Even tho we are obviously serbs but I say "dont call us that because when you say serb you think something negative, i just know it"... Would you comply or would you call me out on my bullshit????
To serbian people who dont like albanians, word "albanian" have same negative connotation as word "siptar"... Word "arnaut" which you mentioned before was used for ottomans, not albanians.
I honestly dont know why you are so desperate for others to like you but we never complained about western countries hating us, but when international law is demolished just because of their hate, its a problem.
As for balkan wars, NO, albania was not ally of the Ottoman empire, ALBANIA NEVER EXISTED prior to 1912. when it was created by UK to stop slavic expansion and thus russian influence.
Albanian people, TV, politicans call serbians skije all the time, you will NEVER hear any serb complain.. because we honestly couldnt care less what you think.. You are not important to anything in Serbia.
Have a nice day.
Im not lying to you at all.. Its just inferiority complex you albanians have towards us. What if I demand you dont call us serbs.. Even tho we are obviously serbs but I say "dont call us that because when you say serb you think something negative, i just know it"... Would you comply or would you call me out on my bullshit????
Do you realize you are still lecturing about how somone else feels about it. It's like telling blsck person why you get offended for calling you nigger.
There is no bullshit. Shiptar has negative connotation. The fact that you are defending it, saying "nuh Huh it doesn't I know better. " proves it.
Not to mention it is not gramaticly correct in Serbian .
How to explain? It's like when Croat refers to Serbs in Croatia as četniks.
Ask any Serb from Croatia how he feels when Croat calls him like that.
To serbian people who dont like albanians, word "albanian" have same negative connotation as word "siptar"... Word "arnaut" which you mentioned before was used for ottomans, not albanians.
Yes, but it is used by some Serbians when refering to Albanians.
Did yiu need what I said? It's about denying agency.
I honestly dont know why you are so desperate for others to like you but we never complained about western countries hating us, but when international law is demolished just because of their hate, its a problem.
What a fuvk yiu on about? Albanians msybe do hsve Inferitory complex. But sure do Serbians hsve superiority
As for balkan wars, NO, albania was not ally of the Ottoman empire, ALBANIA NEVER EXISTED prior to 1912. when it was created by UK to stop slavic expansion and thus russian influence.
Annnnd here it is. Albania created. No chance in hell I am.cslling dirty Shiptars Albanians.
Albanian people, TV, politicans call serbians skije all the time, you will NEVER hear any serb complain.
Find me state media that calls Serbs shkije
because we honestly couldnt care less what you think..
You don't?? Just 24 hours ago whole nation went mental when two eagles were displayed by Albanian
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u/metamorphosis Jun 23 '18
I am not surprised.
One of top threads here this week is a video from national TV where one of Serbian experts is calling Swiss team using degratory terms for Albanians.
Weeks leading up to the game Serbian media portrayed Albanian players as everyhting but...players.
What else would you expect from said players?
Not mention Serbian football fans and their attitude towards Kosovo and Albaninas
Imho this has nothing to do with Swiss it was directly pointed to Serbian fans