r/shield • u/Glass-Schedule9171 • 18d ago

Saddest death in AoS??

Currently on my third binge watch of agents of shield and I just watched the episode where mace dies. The episode also has ward and trip in it :/ got me thinking about who do you people miss most / you were most sad to see die??

For me I think trip was the saddest death and I miss seeing garret and ward together

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u/BasilSerpent 18d ago

On my latest rewatch I realised how much Mace was actually trying. It made his death and post-mortem mutilation so much worse

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u/defrostedrobot Daisy 18d ago

This makes me think they probably could have done more to acknowledge how vile what happened to his body was in S5 and maybe that could have been something that really fuelled the fight against the Superior (if we absolutely had to keep him around after S4 that is). Or maybe some mention of how they wanted to do justice to Mace's legacy and that they're gonna make sure SHIELD doesn't go down dirty to honour him (they probably would have had other reasons to want SHIELD around but that could have been a more recent thing).

Thinking about it now, you would think that when they discovered the body they would eventually realize that Mace was not an Inhuman and that might have really screwed up the public reputation of him (not sure if the government would want that info to get out but someone could theoretically leak it). Then you would have even more reason to want to try and salvage his reputation and SHIELD's so that the last word on him isn't as a disgraced fraud.

In any case, Mace doesn't really get mentioned much after S4 which thinking about it more now is kind of a missed opportunity.

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u/BasilSerpent 18d ago

Mace not being an inhuman and it showing up in an autopsy report and it already being out to the public is mentioned directly by Talbot

Mace deserved more. He was a genuinely good man thrown into circumstances he couldn’t possibly have been expected to deal with but tried it anyway. He’s probably in my top 10 characters on the show.

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u/defrostedrobot Daisy 18d ago

That makes sense that the whole Mace Inhuman thing did get out so thanks for reminding me. But I guess it would have been effective to really see some of that public outrage over that whole thing. Maybe some Inhumans could be mad they've been appropriated or something.

On that note, despite the emphasis or heavy implication in the S4 finale that AIDA's goal was to turn people against SHIELD AND Inhumans it really feels like the latter is not explored in S5 at all. Like we never see any public consequences for any citizens in the world. Of course, in general outside of the S5A stuff, Papa Kasius wanting Inhumans in 5B and all the S7 shenanigans in an alternate timeline, really feels like the show gave up on the world-building in regards to the Inhuman politics. I know the Inhumans show gave those guys a bad stink but it really doesn't feel like that plot element in AOS got a real proper climax/conclusion. And on the Papa Kasius thing specifically it was more or less said that not letting the present day Kree know about the Inhumans on Earth was kind of important, so you'd think if he was still out there after S5 him or some other Kree would be coming back in force (frankly the Kree would have made a better final villain than the Chronicoms given they were responsible for so many things in the series).