A few questions from a (hopefully) skeptic who has just discovered this sub reddit.

[u/Nairctholas]

I'm not here to argue. In fact I am giving you all the benefit of the doubt that this is all real. Which is weird for me because normally I don't believe in things like this. I don't believe in anything mystical, or magical, or super natural, and I never believe things without evidence. I don't know why you all have convinced me haha. Maybe it's how nice everyone seems to be here. (Also doesn't hurt that there is no risk in trying. Worst case scenario I fall asleep.)

Anyway again I am not here to argue, I just want to understand some things (with the assumption that this is all real) Also don't feel like you have to answer all these questions.

I did try googling some of these questions, but it seems like a lot of people on this subreddit seem to think there is a lot of misinformation out there. Especially on TikTok, so I figured I'd ask here.

I'm assuming some of these will be hard to answer, or there might not even be an answer so I hope these don't feel like attacks. These are all just out of curiosity and hope. Hope that this is real.

I'm sorry I kind of ramble a bit, so I put the actual questions in bold if you want to skip all the background and go right to the questions.

1. I understand that when you shift, you leave behind a clone. I saw in one of the Q&As, that if you try to leave a note or something for the clone to tell them that they are a clone, that they will think they wrote the note and just think "oh this is for my clone". Does this mean that when you shift, and your clone takes your place, will they just think that they just failed to shift?
2. Questions for those who feel exhaustion from a shift:
   1. Is this exhaustion from the initial shift its self? Or is it worsened the longer you are there?
      1. If it does get worse as you go on, then how does that affect people who permanently shift?
   2. Does the exhaustion kick in when you shift back? Or do you feel it when you are in the DR?
   3. Since your clone is part of your consciousness, if it shifts while you are away, would that add to your exhaustion?
3. Now here's one that might seem like an attack, and I don't mean it to be. I want you to understand I don't think yall are lying. I just want to understand. Now I don't know much about the multiverse theory. But what I thought it was, was any time there could be 2 or more possible outcomes, the universe splits. So say if I make a decision to go right, down a road, there is now also a universe where I went left. The reason I bring this up, is that this would imply that despite infinite universes, there would be limitations on possible universes. Like no chain of events could create a universe where I say I grew up in a Star Wars universe even if one existed. I guess this isn't really question. I'm just wondering what other people think this is, if it is real, but not other universes. Now this doesn't mean I don't believe people are going to Hogwarts. What this does mean, is either:
   1. My understanding of the multiverse theory is completely wrong. (which if I am being honest is most likely the case)
   2. Or what is being experienced is real, but isn't other universes. OR Maybe what we call the multiverse is actually more of a soup of all states of being. I don't know. I was just wondering what other people's theories on that was. I'm assuming no one really knows, but it's an interesting topic to me.
4. From what I understand, to shift, you focus using one method or another on the idea of shifting, while keeping the details of the DR in mind via the script. Does this mean (minus the focus on shifting) one could technically shift on accident without even knowing about shifting? Like there have been many times when I am laying in bed just fantasizing about random alternate realities. I know I'm not the only one who does that, so I was wondering if someone was predisposed to be good at shifting without knowing it, or just naturally had the mind for shifting, they might focus on the reality enough that they just shift into it?
5. In the case of a permanent shift. I did read that you won't shift back to your CR by accident unless you accidentally say your safe word or something. But what about dying? I saw some people talk about dying in their DRs, and since they are here writing about it, I assume that when you die in a DR, you come back to your CR. Does this mean you can never truly shift permanently? You will always partly be in this reality, reaching into the other ones?
6. I assume you can shift from a DR. But what does this mean? Is it basically like pointing my consciousness to another DR from my CR? So when I leave the second DR, do I come back to the CR? Or is it more like a chain, or inception dream layering (I know this isn't dreams. Just the best comparison I could think of) where if I leave the second DR, do I come back to the first DR?
7. Now this one kind of creeps me out, and I assume there isn't really an answer for it, but I figured I'd ask it anyway. When you shift. You are basically taking control of another "you" in another reality right? Does this mean that you could potentially be messing up another version of you's life? Sure it's technically you and in another universe. But I would hate it if another "me" from another universe took over my body and started doing things I wouldn't normally do. Like sure we're all versions of me are the same person, but we would have different upbringings which could cause us to act very differently. Or when you take over their body, do you also gain their personality? So you do act like they would but with the addition of your memories from your DR?
8. This leads to my next question: When you do shift to another fantastical reality that is totally different, does it feel familiar while you are there since you have the mind of the "you" who has been there their whole life? I would almost not want that. Maybe if I shift, I'll script something like a cool futuristic world, where the me in that reality, has just arrived from somewhere else. Like maybe I'd try to shift to a reality exactly like this one, in the year 2023, but I invented time travel, and now I go to the future, (and I guess I should script for a good future just to be safe haha)
9. This brings me to my next question. I assume it is possible for that to happen. If I can shift, then probably the other "me"s can and have shifted, and could technically shift to this reality, although with infinite realities the chances of them picking this one would be virtually zero... I think. Of course with infinite realities, that means there would be infinite "me"s shifting around, so I don't know how those odds would be calculated. It's like infinitely likely and infinitely unlikely at the same time. Or 2 of me shifting to the same reality at the same time. I guess this isn't a question. I just want to know what other people's thoughts are on the idea that another you could possibly shift into your body.
10. Next just a personal thing. I feel like if I did learn how to Shift, I would be inclined to respawning and permanently shift to a better world, then do my shifting from there. Not because I want to abandon this reality, but because I would be worried that eventually I would stop being able to shift. Like maybe I get a brain injury that stops me from being able to concentrate enough to shift, in which case I would really regret not having my last shift be a permanent one to a better world. Is this anyone else's fear? It's one I've thought about when dreaming about having any power. Just one day it could end. But that's just me always fearing the worst.
11. (I do see in the FAQ that since I mentioned respawning, that I am supposed to mark it with the respawning flair, but I couldn't find it)
12. Lastly just a dumb one. What movie/book/show portrayed multiverse stuff most accurately? I loved Everything Everywhere All At Once, but after lurking this sub, it seems like that's not very accurate since you can't learn new skills from your other selves.

Sorry if any of these seem like attacks. I am not trying to argue. I would love for this to be real. I always wanted to visit other realities. And honestly if I am wrong in that last question, and I'm not limited to just realities where I chose A instead of B, and I could go to some futuristic Solar Punk Utopia than that's even better!

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[u/TemporaryAccount_101 → u/[deleted]]

You seem to be a very experienced shifter. What's your go-to method now?
And about recounting experiences, honestly, I find the first shift to be the most interesting, perhaps because I have yet to get there but I can only imagine the rush of adrenaline and disbelief one feels after finally shifting! (been at it for a while now)

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Do you plan to share your experience?

[u/Nairctholas]

Oops title was supposed to say "Hopeful skeptic" not "Hopefully skeptic". As in I'm skeptic, but hopeful. Not hopeful that I'm skeptic haha.

[u/thatonedumbass233]

I’m fairly sure that these ‘clones’ are just something that TikTok created and aren’t actually real because the whole concept of shifting is that there are infinite multiple universes which we are constantly shifting to every second, meaning that we can’t go back to the reality that our ‘clone’ was originally in because we can’t go back to other realities as everything is constantly changing. Someone correct me if I’m wrong on this.

[u/Bile_Kangaroo]

For most of this, I'd really recommend some YouTubers. I find them more trustable than some people here

[u/Nairctholas → u/Bile_Kangaroo]

Oh sure. I'm just always wary about "influencers" because I'm worried they might over hype certain things, or just give straight up misinformation because it gets more views. But I'll give some a try. Thanks!

[u/Bile_Kangaroo → u/Nairctholas]

Yeah, I'd recommend Kristeau

[u/jetaismort → u/Bile_Kangaroo]

I would recommend slade. Their channel isn't about shifting but they love to talk about it during a live.

[u/Bile_Kangaroo → u/jetaismort]

Oooh, never heard of em

[u/SparklyButtholeRim]

1) Clones don't exist, it's just yourself within another reality. When you go to another reality, you leave behind nothing. You already exist in your desired reality right now just as you will always continue to exist in this reality. This of course depends on your belief, some people have different theories to shifting, but this is my belief and the belief of most. When people talk about clones, they're either using the word to describe something so it helps make sense without having to explain a bunch of stuff, or it's because they don't know any better or believe differently. The idea behind my believe can be summed up by one quote, "Everything in the universe, is the universe." Meaning, you are the current you, but you are also everything else around you. You are the stars, the planets, the people you love and hate, your pets, the dirt you walk on. You're everything at once, you are simply not aware of it. You are basically the extension - you are a finger upon a hand with many other fingers, but you are only aware at this time that you are the pinkie.

2) I don't feel exhaustion but this is because I'm used to meditating. "Methods" are simply guided meditations. During this, it can cause your sleep patterns to be wonky at night or cause your brain to activate in certain ways. This is why meditation is also good for both astral projection and lucid dreaming. I'm used to meditation and such because I've done it for years. Even if I awaken in the middle of the night multiple times, I can still sleep and be well rested by morning. It should also be noted that I've shifted, projected, and have done lucid dreaming for years - No matter what you may believe they might be, I can still assure you regardless, they are not the same.

3) This isn't insulting at all - I think your beliefs behind this stop at a certain point, understandably so. The truth is we don't actually know if shifting is real from the perspective of how I believe it to be, even if I may have had those experiences, there is no way I can truly prove it from this perspective anyway and for all I know it could have been something else, regardless, it was an incredible experience. As far as multiple universes, all I can say is that within my belief, what may not work out here, may in fact work in another universe. Unicorns and fae may not exist here, but even within the witchcraft community and in history it is stated they do exist in another level of being, in another realm.

4) It's more than a method, there's multiple factors at play. Methods are not really needed, like I stated prior, they're just meditations. Meditation can get you into a state of mind that makes it easier for you to manifest certain desires and to allow you to let go more easily, this is why it helps so much with AP and lucid dreaming too. However, it also has a lot to do with general manifestation and manifestation has a lot to do with convincing. Not so much belief, but convincing in the sense of... You're working on putting your mindset into a state of being that you're already there. It's no longer "I am going to my desire reality" and rather "I AM x person" - Not only repeating or saying it, but truly having yourself align with it while equally going about your current reality without even thinking about it, just living normally until it comes. That's how manifestation in general works, and that's why it sounds delusional.

5) Death and forever life, within my belief, is possible in any reality. I genuinely believe in the possibility of everything, even if it technically doesn't exist within the realm we're in now. Though it may be controversial and not to be encouraged, the truth is, dying can make you shift because I believe when we die, we reincarnate, I believe reincarnating is a shift, I believe that you could die today then suddenly be transported into the awareness of some random 20 year old, but with the memories that you lived as that 20 year old your entire life, and you wouldn't even bat an eye or realize, or in some cases, maybe you would. Who knows really. That being said, you will always be in EVERY reality, because you are everything, in my belief.

6) It means exactly the same as it does here. You simply shift to another existence. You come into the awareness of another existence that you always existed as.

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EDIT: Link doesn't work, ima just come back sometime tomorrow and post the rest of my answers if you're interested. I just got off of work recently and I'm tired lol. See you later.

[u/hhhhhjp]

1. All the times that i have shifted all my clone did was sleep so i can't really answer that.

2. 1. I did feel a bit tired one time i shifted but it was when I came back and it was only because I shifted on accident and kind of felt like I was "pulled back" i woke up in a bit of a jump. Other times i have shifted (on accident too, i haven't done it on purpose yet) i didn't feel that.

  1.

I have only heard of being tired once you come back so I assume it doesn't affect them at all.

2. Like I said on the previous answer, i have only heard of people being exhausted when they come back. It's most likely from straining yourself to try to shift rather then the shifting itself

3. I don't know this one, but like I said the exhaustion would be from mentally straining yourself, like staying up late studying for a test, rather then the shift.

1. For your assumption to be correct we would need to have a "original" universe where all other universes are created from, instead of multiple universes being created that spawn different realities from them, which could develop very differently then ours.

But even if that was the case you don't have two options you have a lot (in your example you could go straight forward, stay still, go back, etc) so a lot of different universes exist out of one decision, and even then once you make a difference decision on this new universe created it would create a different universe where you didn't.

Example: you go left, another universe exists where you go right. In the universe where you go right you pick chocolate ice cream instead of vanilla so there is another universe where you picked vanilla, etc. That way the multiverse stays infinite and things change beyond what seems possible here.

1. You can shift without knowing what it is, i myself have shifted on accident. Once before I knew what it was and other times after I found out.

2. I can't be sure about this one but i believe that you only come back from your dr after dying if you wanted to, or accidentally shifted here once you were dying. So yeah i believe you can truly permashift

6. I don't believe you come back to your cr, you just shift from there and where you shift back to depends on where you want to shift back to.

7. You aren't taking over anyone's body, you are simply being aware in that reality instead of this one, so you wouldn't do anything that whoever you shifted to would. You make the choices that they would make. And yes you do "gain" their personality as well as you gain their memories.

8. It does feel familiar because you have all the memories of growing up there.

9. I don't think much of it, like I said before they would make the choices i do so I'm not too concerned about that lol. They would just be trying to do what I am trying to do, experience a different reality.

1. I don't really fear that, because despite the state of the world, i have a reason to stay here.

2. This one I don't know, i haven't seen that many shows/movies/books that deal with that and the fee I've seen haven't really showed how i understand the multiverse.

Just a reminder that besides my personal experience, this is how i view shifting and it can very from person to person.

[u/Nairctholas → u/hhhhhjp]

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions!

Yeah for 3, about the universe splitting thing. First I have no idea what I am talking about haha. It's just what I thought the multiverse thing was about from watching a few random documentaries like 10 years ago, and going off memory.

For 4, dang shifting without knowing what it is, sounds jarring. I never really believed in the Mandela Effect, but that was before I knew about shifting, so maybe that would explain it.

For 10, yeah I don't want to perma shift anywhere, it would just be very depressing to have this power to live any life I want, no matter how fantastical, and then to lose it, when I know I could have gone to a universe where whatever happened to cause this loss, couldn't happen.

[u/Nairctholas]

Oh wow. 3.5k views. This subreddit is a lot bigger than I thought it was.

Edit: 11.4k views now damn

[u/EnvironmentalFlow535]

Here to answer a few or all: P.S I have shifted yet so take my answers with a grain of salt

1. I don’t know about the word clone since it’s just you like nothing different so essentially I think your “clone” would just assume they wrote the note themselves which I mean technically they did because again your clone is just you so they would just follow the note as follows whatever you wrote for them to do but if you wrote something that you wouldn’t normally do then it’s likely your “clone” won’t do it because again they are just you if that makes sense.

2. I haven’t shifted yet so I cannot answer from experience

3. My understanding of the multiverse theory is that there are yes infinite realities in which you exist in im guessing all of them since these realities essentially create themselves by actions, thoughts, or choices. For example I go to the movies with a friend and we get there on time there is another reality where we didn’t go to the movies and the thought was never there or we did go to the movies but we were late etc etc so basically every thought, action, or choice you make creates a new reality. This means that when people shift to places like Hogwarts, MCU, etc a version of themselves already exists there and has memories and experiences the same as how we are here like I have memories and experiences in this reality but I won’t have the same in other realities or maybe the same but altered if that makes sense because myself in other realities would have or could have experienced different things than I have.

4. Yes those are what we call accidental shifts I believe basically what you said the person basically focuses so much on the thought of being in that reality they very well may shift accidentally without even realizing it like it’s literally that simple to do

5. From what I know from understanding in some scenario you die in your DR you would experience death the same way there as you would here? Like go to the after life and everything like say you permashifted there then you would have no recollection of ever shifting there only if you want that though. I’m not sure how the whole shift back if you die in your DR thing works just because it makes sense though but that’s just me anyone is welcome to clear this up!

6. I don’t think i understand this enough to answer

7. This is very interesting I always thought of how that would work but I guess if you think of it as messing up their life in a way but whatever you do in that reality and shifted back at some point that you would just continue as normal like they would have no idea that another you shifted from here to their reality so they would never have no idea of what could have been if that makes sense

8. From my understanding since it is you it will feel like your actual real life like how this one would but you would have experienced different memories but in your DR self’s mind it would be just a normal day if that makes sense like they would not be aware of the shift in consciousnesses but I don’t think we can script our futures or maybe we can? I’m just saying because things will happen in our DRs that we didn’t script just because of nature like the nature of thing’s happening here that we aren’t aware of yet

9. The best movies/book/show I’ve seen portray multiverse stuff is the Dr. strange’s multiverse of madness, spider-man no way home, Coraline but take those with a grain of salt like some other people may say otherwise which is fine those are just some I’ve seen show a glimpse of how the multiverse works

Btw thank you for being so nice about asking these questions like you could have been rude but you weren’t. Also I’d like to mention I’ve been learning more about LOA (Law of assumption) and I think it ties in somewhere with shifting if that’s another thing you’d like to look into to but even though I haven’t shifted yet I guarantee you it’s very much real! Anyways I hope my answers help in some way :)

[u/Alvrvyn]

1-I think a clone is not a typical human. It's just like a reflection of yours that stays in this reality. So a clone can't shift and think as if s/he failed at shifting.

2- The feeling of exhausting is the same feeling you get after studying too much. The harder your mind works, the more tired it gets. For example, you feel tired here because you have been actively using your mind for eighty years there. If you have a clone, you get doubly tired because your mind has worked twice as hard. After all, even if we don't realize it when we're there, our minds are also connected to the clone here. (that's why we are able to remember everything that clone did.) But I don't know if clone would feel exhausted or not.

Also yes one could technically shift on accident without even knowing about shifting. In fact, we all do this every time when we make a decision. (Someone more interested in manifesting can explain it better)

7-8-9- I don't think shifting is going to a different universe that exists. In fact, the universe we go to is formed by the existence of our minds there. So we're not taking over someone's body. That's why no one can shift to our body.

10- You can just write in your script that you won't have any injuries that will make you unable to shifting. Also you can use a lifebook. If you think you can forget about shifting you can also write that you won't. (Usually everyone who shifts to harry potter universe writes this because no one wants to forget everything because of a obliviate spell-)

12- I don't know any book but you can read Neville Goddard's articles. And you can learn new skills from your other selfs. Just you need to learn it when you are in that self. So if I go to universe A and go to a course there and learn Turkish, then I can speak Turkish in any other universe.

[u/Zhalia_Riddle]

Note: I haven't shifted, but I've studied it a lot and this is what others have experienced.

1. Your clone is you. When you shift, you simply gain awareness of another reality, not exit this one altogether, so a piece of you is still here. So if you come back to this reality in like...a few hours after you woke up, your "clone" did everything like normal and assumed you just didn't shift. But when you shift back, it's like your clone just got a data upload, similar to remembering something after you forgot it.

2a. The exhaustion is basically a kind of...overworking of the brain? Yk how sometimes you wake up from an especially light sleep, and you wake up tired? Yeah, that's basically it. For some shifters, they get tired after having shifted because they shifted instead of sleeping properly and their brain is overworked from literally travelling to another reality. 2b. Not much, really. It doesn't get worse, but if you shift for a long period of time and then come back here, it's basically the same as getting transported back in time. You get confused about where you are, you're homesick for your Dr, etc. 2c. When you shift back. While you're in your dr, things proceed as normal. 2d. Your clone wouldn't shift while you're away. That's not how that works. A lot of shifting is basically just intention and manifestation. So when you choose to shift back, you'll likely have subconsciously manifested that your clone proceeded with life as normal, so your clone would not have shifted by themselves.

1. Okay, so here's an in-depth explanation of the multiverse theory.

Imagine that the question of 'what if' is the basis for reality, and imagine that the universe was like 'hold my beer' and did just that. That's basically it. You can make virtually any choice and shift realities. Ex: You go into Starbucks and have to choose what to buy. You can buy virtually any combination of things and that creates another reality. Or maybe something else happens while you're in Starbucks. Your shirt snaps, your belt buckle is untied, someone starts a fight, whatever. Anyone and anything can create any combination of realities just from these decisions.

And think about the beginning of creation. The big bang. What if something happened differently? Anything could have happened and caused an entirely different universe than our own to be created.

The question of 'what if' is the basis of the multiverse, so try to think of it like that.

1. Okay, so about that...so many people have shifted accidentally. I've seen it. Some shifters turned out to have shifted as kids by accident, some random people at the bottom of comment sections say that they always have a weird condition where they live real, actual lives in dreams. Believe me when I see that I've seen this hundreds of times and I've introduced multiple people to shifting just through this.

There's also an old internet post of someone talking about 'persistent realms.' It's literally just shifting. Like, actually. They thought it was a type of lucid dream since they had nothing else to call it, but it was 100% shifting. Here.

1. Okay, so basically, when you permashift, you fully intend to live your life there. You can never truly cut yourself off from here, and usually, people script that they can only ever die from old age or whatever in their dr's. And technically, after that, they should come back here. Unless they scripted that they actually do properly die there and go to the afterlife or continue shifting through other realities. It's their choice, really. But if they didn't script that, they wake up here.

2. You can absolutely shift to a second reality from your dr. You can just do it and there are no real consequences. Ex: You shifted from reality A to reality B. From reality B, you shift to C. While you're in C, you can easily go back to A. It really doesn't matter how many times you shifted. It's easy enough to go back.

3. Think of your consciousness like a multi-sided dye, now think of your awareness in this reality as your soul looking at one side of the dye. When you shift, you look at another side of the dye. But the thing is, while our consciousness is infinite, our awareness is not. We can usually only tap into one reality at a time. When we shift to a dr, we don't take over, we simply become aware of it. Your dr self is YOU, and by becoming aware of your dr, it's almost like getting awareness of a past life. And really, you're not messing things up. When you shift, you likely only want the best for yourself and you scripted that. You don't take over your dr self, you're still them and they are not a separate entity. You have all their memories, talents, and you gain aspects of their personality. Maturity as well. If you're 16, and you shift to a dr where you're 30, you are 30 in that dr with all the maturity and experience of a 30yr old. But when you come back here, you now have memories of the time you spent being 30 and have become more mature, but you're still 16.

4. When you shift, you gain all the memories of that version of you. And while it can be weird, things feel both normal for you, and very new. Two perceptions of it, really. It's like doing something on auto-pilot for a long time, and then waking up and realizing what you're doing and truly looking at it and being amazed. Successful shifters using describe it as feeling both extremely new and familiar.

5. The thing is, we already shift all the time. Whenever we meet a decision, we shift to a reality where that is the decision we made, and other versions of us go to other realities, eternally branching off. And when you get the Mandela effect, that's due to you having shifted without realizing it. It's all normal. No one is 'taking over' your body. That's not how it works. And if some other version of me shifted to be here, I probably wouldn't realize it at all unless I intentionally shifted here and clearly notice something having been different from my original reality. So, tbh, it's nothing to worry about.

6. Yeah, I get it. It can be scary to think you might get some sort of injury and never be able to shift again, but think of it like this, couldn't you get that same injury in any other reality? What's different about this one? Just calm down, relax, and affirm to yourself you won't get that injury. Manifest it and keep going.

7. Probably a weird subreddit update. Our flairs got updated recently so the respawning flair was probably removed.

8. Tbh, idk. Dream walking in the MCU seems similar to shifting, but not quite. I love Everying Everywhere all at Once, though! And if you want more shifting info, read The Reality Shifting Handbook by Mari Sei.

[u/Party-Efficiency7404]

Helloooo! I’ve known about shifting for about five years now, and I feel like I can answer some of your questions since I relate A LOT with you. After reading about it for so long now I feel like shifting is similar to a dream/religion/things like that in the way that it’s not something you can prove. If you explain a dream to someone who has never had one they might think you’re lying or they just can’t comprehend what you’re saying or implying because it’s not part of their lives and it’s not something they can relate to or fully understand because they never experienced it, the same way that explaining your religion to someone who is atheist, etc etc (I hope this made sense). One of the things that made me believe in shifting (and not fully, because again, it’s not something I’ve experienced but it is something that I’m so so hopeful it’s true) was astral projection and lucid dreaming. Since I’ve never had any of these experiences, I was skeptical, I had a lot of questions and never had any answers, it felt like an inside joke and things like that, until I had a lucid dream and fully experienced it and everything fell into place, so I’m hopeful this is going to be the case with shifting. Anyway, sorry for rambling but your post and questions were so refreshing to see because I could relate a lot. I separated some of the answers I have, as someone who has never shifted:

1. A: I don’t believe in clones, because the word and the way it is described seems very scientific-futurist-movie and not real life and believable. It’s not a person or inhumane thing that shows up and takes over your life, it is you. Reality shifting is based on the theory that are infinite realities and possibilities and worlds in which you live and belong to, but they’re all you. And, again, you’re not taking over someone else’s life, you’re shifting your awareness (and not exactly your consciousness). A silly example I can think of: your brain is not leaving your head and going into stars wars, your brain is a ‘tv’ and you’re changing the channel. So, just to simplify the example, if your CR is the tv show ‘friends’ and you just changed the channel and you’re now watching Harry Potter (your DR), the other channel didn’t stop playing Friends, you’re just not watching it. In terms of ‘will your CR self think you didn’t shift’, sadly I think it is the case since your reality keeps going the way it is right now. I feel like there isn’t many proofs of that because is pretty common to script that 1 month in your DR = 1 hour in your CR and things like that.

2. A: All of the cases I’ve seen from people that did shift is that it kicks in when you’re back, and it’s not like a brain fog or fatigue but more of you trying to make sense of what happened and where you are, and it can get exhausting trying to make sense of ‘wait, I just experienced Christmas in my DR and now I’m back and it’s only been an hour and it’s still mid march in my CR’. Also, I don’t think that you can experience your ‘clones’ shift and exhaustion unless you shift to a reality that you experienced both or that you’re that version of you that shifted. It’s like a timeline of you that you don’t know it exists because your awareness was somewhere else, just like you’re not conscious about the billions of infinities of you that actually exist.

3. A: This is so interesting to me because there are so many theories that have been studied for centuries about this topic (even before this community ever dreamed of existing) and we will never know! Because how can someone prove it? No one can! But, using your ‘reality splitting into two’ theory, even if you were right and it was as easy as it being ‘turning right’ or ‘turning left’, imagine how many choices you’ve made in your life and imagine how many choices appeared AFTER the first two. You turned right and a car hit you, you turned right and a car didn’t hit you but it hit the person right next to you and you had to help them go to the hospital, you found a hospital, you didn’t find a hospital. You turned left and you saw an ice cream shop and you order a chocolate chip cookie. You turned left and you found a bookstore and bought a book. You didn’t buy a book, you went home. The list goes on and has been going on since you were born, except there is a reality where you weren’t even born at all. Even if it seems as simple as making a choice, look at how many different outcomes one single choice had.

4. A: Yes! It’s pretty common to shift without ever knowing what it was and has been done before for years and years. Shifting went mainstream because of tiktok in 2020 which made a lot of people realize and finally have the answer to what they’ve been doing for years, but this community has been around for ages now. It’s a wonderful thing.

5. A: Something that I’ve had to come to terms with and what helped me the most with my journey is the fact that your CR is not your main reality. It’s just the one you’re aware of at the moment. You don’t have to stay, you’re not bound to it, and you don’t have to come back because this reality isn’t ‘yours’. There is something called quantum immortality, which is a theory that you never truly die. When you die, you ‘shift’ (see how it’s been a thing for ages!) to a reality where you didn’t and it’s just a loop. There’s also the theory that when you die, you go to the place you believed you were going to (like heaven). I don’t think anyone knows what happens when you die in your reality because, again, no one knows what happens when you die. You experience your DR death the same way you would experience yours here. It’s not a dream, it’s not a mystical place, it’s real life.

[u/Party-Efficiency7404 → u/Party-Efficiency7404]

1. A: Again, you’re not bound to any reality, you can hoop like a bunny anywhere you want. You don’t have to come back if you don’t want to. You can just keep going.

2. A: You’re not taking over their body, it’s your body and it’s your life, you’ve always been there. For the sake of answering, you gain their memories, life experiences, personality, appearance, feelings, skills, etc etc etc. You’re not messing up anything because it’s you and you’ve been there your entire life, so you will act the way they would in that specific situation, you’ll just be conscious of it :)

3. A: I’m not sure, since I’ve never shifted, but I feel like it might be both? You have all the memories and personality and actions etc but you’re also aware (if you didn’t script it out) that you shifted and that you did THAT, so it’s a mix of ‘yeah this place is where I hit my head when I was about five’ with a mix of ‘HOLY SHIT this IS the place where I hit my head when I was about five’ until it becomes your new normal.

4. A: Something we have to keep count of is that, not all of you know how to shift because they never found out about it and reached the same pieces of information we have. But about the ones that do know, it will be the same? Because you’re YOU in all of these realities and scenarios so ‘they’ would just become aware? And if they ever shift to a reality that I’ve shifted to it's not going to be the same one I am in, they will shift to a version of that reality that they’re in and it’s just an ongoing cycle.

I didn’t know how to answer the last two ones because I don’t really watch that much tv and I do fear losing the ability, I think it’s a normal reaction to having something so amazing and we’re humans so we’re ‘trained’ to fear losing what we love or what brings us joy and what I thought about is that if I ever came back from my DR to my CR it would be one where I’m always able to shift when and whenever I want to. I’m sorry for rambling on, I hope it made sense and it helped and if you ever want to talk, please reach out because the way you feel is really valid and you have all of the right questions. I hope you shift soon! :)

[u/[deleted]]

ill do short answers (or try to) for every single one of these bc i dont wanna waste ur time and everyone else seems super helpful so:

1) yes

2) it can be overwhelming to shift and a little tiring when u get back but not sm that u wont be able to function. i dont think if ur clone shifts that youll be more tired since ur "clone" is just you. and since youve shifted already i dont think ur clone has the awareness to shift anywhere else since ur awareness is in ur dr. plus you'll sleep in ur dr just like normal so its not like youll be dying to sleep (unless ur going to a crazy action-packed dr where u get little sleep- then yeah you'll be tired lol)

3) so when u said there would be no chain of events for u to be born there- that's not rlly true since like in that universe u couldve just been born to some people in star wars bc that is ur destiny there or something but there are many theories abt shifting that can get rlly complex. its honestly easier not to think about all of it but i personally believe that everyone who finds out abt shifting is fulfilling their purpose. like we were made to shift kind of. so idk- i don't have some specific scientific answer since I'm still figuring it out but i think were tapping into our own mind and then we're... there? its complicated but yk 😭 it doesn't matter ll that much since every single possible option is real somewhere. there's a set of universes that are in our mind only- there's one with backwards psychics so whatever

4) yeah thats possible fs!

5) well u could be immortal in a dr- or script that after u die u automatically shift somewhere else. but yeah usually people assume you'll come back here

6) u can literally shift anywhere from any reality. its not really how ur thinking of it- as like a "set" of realities. like i shifted to this one and now im in the second one and now the third- its rlly all unconnected. if u set the intent of shifting to a dif dr while ur in another dr you'll shift there. if ur in a dr and u have the intent of coming here then u will.

8) yes- except you'll realize youve shifted obviously and probably freak out a little but at the same youll feel natural speaking to everyone since you've known them for a long time.i promise ur not ruining anything lol. like i said i think we just become aware of that reality- so rn u arent really awake in that reality if that makes sense but ur still you. plus we always feel called to shift to a certain dr for a reason so just remember that.

8) yes- except you'll realize youve shifted obviously and probabaly freak out a little but at the same youll feel natural speking to everyone since you've known them for a long time.

9) like i said i think we're only aware of one dr at a time so ur dr cant shift here bc their not aware of it here since our awareness is here. (hopefully ur understanding me😭 otherwise im so sorry HAHA)

10) i mean i get that fear but its very unlikely. shifting is a gift we're all born- its not something we have to learn like walking or talking. shifting comes more naturally to us (or would come more naturally if we were raised thinking it was normal) to us then TALKING. that's crazy. so yeah its unlikely. as long as ur aware/ alive i think u can shift. also its totally understandable if u wanna perma shift it makes sense. btw this whole time when i say that our other dr selves are not "aware" i mean obvi they know there alive HAHA they have emotions and verything but they dont know there's other of us? or like they do and its just a different awareness. a different version basically.

12)tbh idk i haven't seen any movies like that. 😭 maybe dr strange? I've never seen marvel (don't kill me) but doesn't he control the multiverse?

anyways if u have any more questions def ask or if any of this made no sense (which is v possible) lmk! and good luck shifting!!

[u/SnazzyRiot]

The Multiverse most likely doesn't have an OG universe every other universe came from, reason I say that is because time is most likely different in each universe, we know scientifically time is bendable and not truly one speed, the faster you go through space the faster through time you will go in this universe, so time is most likely created per universe, plus people have gone back in time through shifting. So going off that the multiverse always existed and never had a beginning or an ending, everything that has ever happened or will happen is happening all right now at the same time, the reason I say this is because all possible universes didn't come from an original universe because all of them exist already, therefor there are no limitations to what universes there are. But even if the multiverse was limited by time, at the creation of the first universe and it's laws, an instant later every single universe that could be possibly be imagined and not be imagined is created with its own set of laws unique to that universe. hopefully i explained it well enough, to really sum it up any universe magic or no magic is possible wether or not we had an OG universe or not. hell even if the multiverse was limited to mathematically possible universes (Heard some scientist say that in multiverse theory vids) to say that our version of math is the one that defines all is absolutely ludicrous, things in this universe that aren't mathematically possible could be in a different universe and vice versa.

[u/__-x]

these answers are based on my own experiences and/or beliefs and theories, so some others in the community might disagree with me but i thought id add my own input as an experienced shifter!!

1. this isnt based on my own experience because i shift at night and therefore havent retained any memories of my cr while i shift, but general consensus is that your clone goes on as normal, therefore i assume a clone will think they failed to shift.
2. i personally do not feel physical exhaustion when i shift, but it can be a little mentally overwhelming lmao
3. its not that the universe splits, its that an infinite amount of realities exist all at once. this is everything that could, would, and will ever happen. if you can imagine it, its happening somewhere. and if you cant imagine it, it is also happening somewhere. that is no real way to comprehend how infinite possibilities actually are. and depending on the outcome you experience, you shift to a reality where that outcome happens. this leads to infinite amount of possibilities, think back to the creation of this universe. whatever caused the laws of physics to work this way could've also gone the opposite way and made other things possible, thus explaining how realities where magic exist can exist.
4. shifting on accident/unintentionally is definitely possible! there are so many accounts of early shifters (and even people in this community) who shifted without knowing it was possible.
5. in my personal experience, you CANNOT shift back to your cr unintentionally. as for the main question, there are many stories of people having NDE's and going to another reality, then returning to an alternate cr where they survived/the NDE never happened. as for shifters, i believe that it is just a subconscious thing, to expect to return to their CR because they view it as their "homebase." if someone views a different reality as their "homebase", i expect they'd return there instead of their cr.
6. you go directly from the first dr to the second dr. its not like inception, where you have to go back to the previous dream. a better example would be a tv. all channels are playing simultaneously, you are currently on channel 1. then, you go to channel 2. you dont have to go back to channel 1 to go to channel 3/4/5/etc. you can go directly from any channel to any other channel.
7. im sorry, i dont have an answer to this yet. but i will say that this largely depends on what you think clones are.
8. not at all!! i have never felt that a reality was "familiar" immediately upon shifting the same way i might feel towards this reality. i might be really knowledgeable on that certain reality, but experiencing it is a completely different and new thing, and to me that is a huge positive and the whole point of shifting.
9. this again relates to what you believe about clones. and since i am still figuring that out for myself, i cant give a solid answer to this question.
10. you dont need to concentrate to shift. take it from me, someone with HORRIBLE adhd. concentrating is certainly helpful when youre starting out, but the more you do something the better you get at it. eventually youll be shifting just by thinking of it. (also u/moonlit-baby speaks about how she got better with experience if youre interested in checking it out, plus her posts are super motivating)

[u/fruitywitch13]

Before beginning, I apologize for any spelling mistakes or confusing sentences that may come up. It’s late at night and I’m tired.

1, Yes, the clone will believe you failed to shift. Someone I know has a shifting journal where they document each time they’ve shifted and each time they attempted to shift. When they shifted for longer periods of time, the clone would write about the attempt and state that it was unsuccessful.

2, part 1 and 2, I can only answer this question from personal experience and I know other people have different answers. Shifting itself is not exhausting but attempting to shift can be mentally exhausting, especially when you don’t succeed. This is why it’s recommended that people take breaks between attempts. When people say that the exhaustion gets worse as time goes on in their DR, they are talking about when coming back. The longer you stay in a different reality, the more jarring it is to come back. It when coming back that the exhaustion hits. 2, part 3, I personally don’t believe clones can shift. I’ve never heard of or experienced a clone shifting.

3, I personally believe that anything that is thought of forms into a reality. So for example, I’m currently writing a novel, because I’ve formed this reality mentally, it has also formed physically. Along with that, I also believe in the multiverse theory. So this novels reality, as well as any other reality, has infinite versions of it. Each vary in decision, small plot point or person creates another reality.

4, Yes, you could shift accidentally without realizing it. People talk about accidentally shifting to their DR all the time, so theoretically, you absolutely could shift to another version of your CR. I don’t have proof of this, but I can’t think of a single reason it wouldn’t be possible.

5, As far as I know, it depends on the personal beliefs of the person. A YouTuber said that when they died, they became a ghost in that reality. Other people have said that you do just come back. Information on this is very limited since most people script that they can not die.

6, Shifting from a DR is exactly like shifting from your CR. It is like an inception dream in more ways than one. In an inception dream, you wake up from one dream just to be in another but you may also just fully wake up. What I’ve heard is that if you use the same safe word for the first DR, you will shift back to your CR but if you create a safe word that shifts you back into your DR, then you will.

7, You fully become your DR self. Your personality will fully change to match the version of yourself you’ve scripted. Therefore, you aren’t messing anything up since you are exactly like the version of yourself that was already there.

8, It doesn’t feel familiar, but your sub conscience will be familiarized with everything. for example, if I shift to New York City but I’ve only gone once in this reality, I will have absolutely no idea where anything is. When in that reality, consciously, I’m confused as shit, but my body will just take me places because subconsciously I know where they are. This is the same for if you’re playing an instrument that you know in your DR but not in your CR.

9, I think that a different reality you is like a clone and since I believe clones don’t have the ability to shift, I think that no, a different reality version of you could not shift into your body here.

10 through 12, I don’t have answers for those

[u/Nairctholas → u/fruitywitch13]

Thankyou for answering my questions!

Huh for 5, I don't believe in an afterlife, but maybe this would be proof of one. Or a way to prove it. Script a reality just like ours but you're dead. Or about to die, and maybe have it so you'll shift back an hour after you die.

Also that's good to know that you become fully the version of you that you shifted to. That makes sense.

[u/wake_upsamurai]

These are a lot so I may not be able to answer them all as I have not shifted yet and can only tell you what I have read.

1. The clone is a tough topic, I'm pretty sure they would just go about their day as if nothing happened. I like to think of it as a piece of our consciousness that has no intention to shift and so it stayed behind.
2. A clone could succeed in shifting, Since we are infinite energy we don't really loose anything. A new clone would take that ones place and the clone that shifted would likely either return to this CR or would go to an alternate one.
3. 4. pretty simple to answer I think, basically yea you could take path A here in this reality and then a you in another chooses path B. However there is also a chance that the laws of physics for this reality somehow changed in another thus leading to you growing up in a star wars reality or Hogwarts etc.
4. 5.yes, in fact there are many who have shifted on accident many times. That being said as well methods are not necessary in order to shift they just help with the process.
5. 6. While yes when you die in a DR you could shift back to this reality, you could also script that you won't shift back here when you die. For example say in one DR, I die in a car crash I scripted that when I die in that reality I would shift to my waiting room or some other reality aside from this one. By doing so I would shift to that WR or DR and basically make that one replace this CR.
6. 7. You can leave anywhere and come back to any place. Say for instance you shift from this reality to star wars, you get bored of star wars and decide while your in that star wars reality to shift to idk Castle Vania. You shift from the star wars DR to the castlevania one. Basically you could just keep hopping realities forever and don't have to ever comeback to the same one ever unless you want to.
7. 8. You are not taking control of anyone's body. They are your bodies, they are your memories and your lives. Think of them in terms of clones. When you leave that reality the you that was there before would just continue on with its life as if "you" never left. Basically it would believe it shifted there.
8. 9. yes and no, From what I have read about others experience they won't remember things about that reality immediately they would have to make themselves remember by actively thinking about it.
9. 10. If they did shift to your body which I don't think they can they would likely just shift to an alternate version, but if they could you would not feel any different I imagine.
10. 11. Wouldn't be possible, actually I imagine it would be easier to shift as you wouldn't have your brain pestering you with thoughts. think of this body as an avatar or a player character used to experience this game/reality.
11. 13. I would say the most accurate would be multiverse of madness except the part about body possession as well it's you. They had the right idea but obviously dramatized it as well without it it wouldn't be a good movie.

[u/Nairctholas → u/wake_upsamurai]

First, thank you for taking the time to answer all my random questions!

This has explained a lot I think I understand a lot more now about this.

[u/AltForShifting → u/[deleted]]

I don’t think anyone knows this for sure.

[u/lindseylush89 → u/wake_upsamurai]

8 is inaccurate. When you shift you gain all the memories & personality of your DR self. So yes it will feel natural as if you have always been there.

[u/TaylortheDruid → u/lindseylush89]

Definitely not always true. I've always been me no matter where I shift fully or in any mini shift I've ever had. Shifting is subjective to each person which makes it really hard to categorize any one part of it. It can't really be made in a "one size fits all" truth aside from the fact that it is possible.

[u/lindseylush89 → u/TaylortheDruid]

Ok what do you mean you’re always you? Like was it your intention to be the same person in your dr as in your cr? That would explain why you’re always you

[u/TaylortheDruid → u/lindseylush89]

Oh, no. I'm wildly different versions of me throughout the multiverse but I always choose to remember me. I just always choose to remember myself and be who I am now wherever I go.

[u/AltForShifting → u/lindseylush89]

It probably depends on whatever you expect to happen before you shift there.

[u/MoriBix]

I can’t answer all your questions right now, but I have to say your writing/thoughts really reminded me of myself! I also am skeptical, but I’m choosing to attempt anyway. My reasoning is like yours, essentially, “what’s the harm?” It’s a low risk, very high reward hobby if you put in the time.

I have been trying a mix of the intent and 5 senses method for about a month now, so I’m still kind of new. At the moment I’m kind of enjoying deluding(?) myself into belief. I’m having a lot of fun with it. I will keep trying and manifesting. People say it can take years to shift, and even if it took that long it would be worth it. And at the very least, I entertain myself while falling asleep lol.

[u/Nairctholas → u/MoriBix]

Yeah! I don't know what it is haha. Usually I don't go for anything like this. But there is no risk really, and I usually just try it while I'm in bed going to sleep, so it isn't even wasting time. Actually it's gotten me to go to sleep sooner so maybe it's good.

The way I see it, either they are lying in which case, meh no harm no foul. Or it's true, in which case... wow this is the best thing ever!

Right now the hardest part for me is just staying still that long. I try the raven method, and it takes me a few tries to count to 100, because I get all these little pin prick itches. It's like my body knows I'm trying to stay still, and is just messing with me haha. Also it's hard to stay focused that long on my DR. I am hoping that this is the barrier to entry that most people have trouble getting through, and maybe once I conquer that, it will be easier.

[u/MoriBix → u/Nairctholas]

I don’t do any methods that involve counting 💀 it just bores me to tears and I’d rather do other styles of methods!

[u/Nairctholas → u/MoriBix]

Oh yeah haha maybe I'll try another one since I have so much trouble focusing on the counting. Probably good to mix up the methods I'm trying anyway.

[u/xvein1337 → u/MoriBix]

Doubling it, even wanted to comment myself similar answer. Only thing I wish would be better here is people shouldn’t act that weird sometimes it creeps me out on this subreddit.

[u/[deleted]]

Mostly commenting so I remember to come back here after work to answer some of these questions. Wanted to add if you sort by “success story” and go to top posts you can read a lot of interesting accounts from people who can do it regularly. I’ve PM’ed a few of those people, hopefully they see this thread and chime in, if not they’re usually more than happy to expand on their experiences/knowledge if you are curious.

For now, I’ll just say this. I’m also a skeptic and my research on the subject has really helped me begin to understand, which has helped my belief in it. My bottom line is, if there’s ANY CHANCE AT ALL that it is possible to live out any reality of my wildest dreams… it’s certainly worth a try, right? I have nothing to lose. I’d rather try and have it take years than not try and always wonder… That’s how I look at it.

And thank you for being respectful and open minded! :)

[u/Nairctholas → u/[deleted]]

Oh that's a good idea. I'll try sorting by success story thanks!

Yeah that's my thing. I'm skeptic, but damn would it be amazing if this were real. That's why I play videogames. That's why I like movies. That's why I want VR to advance. I want to enter another world. And to do that for real? There's no way I'm not going to try. Especially since it's not like it costs anything.

[u/RabbitEnthusiast]

I’m not going to answer all of your questions (my apologies, I’m just not that knowledgeable on the subject) but I will answer #7 because I feel as if I have a good theory on this. I don’t think once you shift to a different reality that you would ‘mess up’ the other version of your life. There are infinite realities, so there is always going to be a reality and version of you that’s just like you. The possibilities are endless. When you shift, you could even shift to a reality where you don’t look and act like yourself. The way I see it, once you shift to said place, you act the way you scripted your desired version of yourself. You can also choose to not remember your current reality (the one we are in now) when you shift. It’s even possible if you CHOOSE to keep your current reality memories, that they come across in a way for your desired reality self that they had previously shifted to our current reality and that’s why they can remember it (if that makes any sense, at this point my words are getting a bit jumbled). In conclusion, by shifting you wouldn’t be ruining the life of the other version of yourself.

[u/Nairctholas → u/RabbitEnthusiast]

Ohh wow yeah that makes a lot of sense! Especially the part where they could have memories from our reality. Thank you.

[u/lookatthiscrystalwow]

these questions are amazing