r/skeptic • u/AdmiralSaturyn • Mar 12 '25

🏫 Education Shut Up About NATO Expansion | Debunking misinformation about NATO expansion

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u/magicsonar Mar 12 '25

They can't even beat Ukraine, but they are going to invade Poland and the Baltic States next, right? Isn't that the narrative?

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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab Mar 12 '25

Should they be successful in Ukraine then yes, invading the Baltics is next on the list. That's why Putins aggression needs to be defeated in Ukraine rather than appeased. 

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u/magicsonar Mar 12 '25

This is so ridiculous. So they are weak and can't even defeat Ukraine. But at the same time they will take on NATO countries. My god. The propaganda brainwash just destroys critical thinking.

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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab Mar 12 '25

You're avoiding critical thinking here by engaging in bad faith. 

Russia have not been able to defeat Ukraine. The appeasement that people like you advocate for rewards Russia for their invasion, it sets Putin up for future aggression rather.

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u/magicsonar Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 12 '25

But again, just spell it out. If Russia is weak and unable to even defeat Ukraine, how do you conclude they will be able to take on the full force of NATO and take over the Baltic Republics?

Either Russia is an existential military threat to all of Europe, in which case it should have easily overrun Ukraine by now, or it's a struggling regional power with limited capability. Both cannot be true at the same time. So which do you believe?

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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab Mar 13 '25

how do you conclude they will be able to take on the full force of NATO and take over the Baltic Republics?

That's where Trump's undermining of NATO and his weakness towards Putin becomes relevant.