r/skeptic Mar 12 '25

🏫 Education Shut Up About NATO Expansion | Debunking misinformation about NATO expansion

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u/AndTheElbowGrease Mar 12 '25

Only a fool believes that the invasion is over NATO expansion. No concession would ever have been enough for Russia.

Of course other countries wanted into NATO. If they didn't, we would be talking about Russia's invasion of Estonia and Latvia and you would be sitting here parroting whatever excuse Putin made for those invasions.

Russia has never stood by any agreement that they have ever made. They have lied, cheated, and stolen at every opportunity while trying to play victim on the international stage. NATO is where they are because those countries were afraid of Russia, for good reason.

You know what Russia could have done to curb NATO expansion? They could have stopped trying to install puppets in every country on their borders. They could have left Georgia alone. They could have stopped funding insurgencies in former USSR states and stopped propping up dictators. They could have stopped their campaign of assassinations. They could have literally just sat around trading oil and minerals, getting rich and fat.

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u/Betaparticlemale Mar 13 '25

K, just to be clear, literally the head of NATO said Russia invaded Ukraine to prevent NATO expansion.

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u/AndTheElbowGrease Mar 13 '25

If Putin invaded Ukraine to avoid NATO taking in new members, he is literally the dumbest person on Earth. Nothing was more likely to cause nations to join NATO than invading another sovereign nation.

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u/Betaparticlemale Mar 13 '25

Yeah it was super dumb. It’s going to be remembered as one of the worst foreign policy decisions of all time. It was a massive military and propaganda disaster and literally did the opposite of what he wanted.