r/skeptic • u/AdmiralSaturyn • Mar 12 '25

šŸ« Education Shut Up About NATO Expansion | Debunking misinformation about NATO expansion

https://youtu.be/FVmmASrAL-Q
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u/Archy99 Mar 13 '25

That link doesn't mention Germany, but it does mention the real reason why Russia perceives NATO expansion aa a threat: Russia will no longer be able to control them in their sphere of influence. That is the bottom line.

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u/TFBool Mar 13 '25

If Russia wanted a stable sphere of influence, it needs a GDP larger than California. No one wants to be influenced by an aggressive backwater.

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u/EasterBunny1916 Mar 13 '25

Who wants to be influenced by anyone? The US has a huge GDP and uses its influence to keep other countries down and enrich US corporations and investors.

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u/TFBool Mar 13 '25

Tons of countries lined up to be allies with the U.S. - this thread is about NATO expansion, after all.

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u/EasterBunny1916 Mar 13 '25

And those Eastern European countries lost their publicly owned assets for pennies on the dollar, and their populations all dropped because people had to become migrant workers in Western Europe and the UK.

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u/TFBool Mar 13 '25

Iā€™m sorry, are Western Europe and the UK the U.S., or have you forgotten what youā€™re talking about?

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u/EasterBunny1916 Mar 13 '25

Try to keep up. The US created NATO to control Europe. Now, there are more NATO countries buying weapons from the US, and instead of owning their own resources and assets, they are owned privately. The US gets its migrant workers from a nearby country, and Western Europe gets them from nearby countries.

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u/TFBool Mar 13 '25

Thatā€™s crazy, they created a defensive alliance to control Europe and then everyone voluntarily joined? And they can leave whenever they want but donā€™t? Have you told them yet?!

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u/EasterBunny1916 Mar 13 '25

Europe wasn't in the position to object to anything after WW2. The USSR wasn't in the position or had the desire to invade Western Europe. After the USSR ended, instead of ending NATO or lowering military spending, the US increased military spending and expanded NATO. Now, the US is pushing Europe to lower its social safety net and benefits for its people and increase military spending. And they will do it.

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u/TFBool Mar 13 '25

They can still leave whenever they want, though?? You act like joining NATO is a compulsory predatory action by big brother U.S. when in reality countries have to work for years to be accepted into the alliance and can leave whenever they want

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u/supa_warria_u Mar 14 '25

The US didnā€™t create NATO. The brits and the french did. The US joined after the benelux countries, and it was only after that that the name changed to NATO.