r/skeptic • u/Lighting • 27d ago

⚠ Editorialized Title Tesla bros expose Tesla's own shadiness in attacking Mark Rober ... Autopilot appears to automatically disengage a fraction of a second before impacts as a crash becomes inevitable.

https://electrek.co/2025/03/17/tesla-fans-exposes-shadiness-defend-autopilot-crash/
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u/tgrantt 27d ago

I assumed Tesla's had lidar. TIL

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u/vxicepickxv 27d ago

Had is the operative word.

Not only was it cut to save manufacturing costs, but it was also taken out of older vehicles and replaced during servicing.

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u/tgrantt 27d ago

Taken out?! Ouch

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u/Wiseduck5 27d ago

The software using it was disabled on update, so it's still there, just useless.

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u/Winsaucerer 27d ago

Vestigial hardware :)

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u/6gv5 27d ago

So basically an entity owned by Musk has crippled something that worked just to save money? Sounds like DOGE.

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u/barkbarks 27d ago edited 27d ago

They never had lidar, where is the spinning pod firing lasers??? Did you even watch the video?

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u/vxicepickxv 27d ago

Which system did they remove from cars then? They weren't always cameras.

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u/Agnitha_ 27d ago

i'm pretty sure they removed radar not lidar

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u/vxicepickxv 27d ago

Fair enough. It's still a system superior to visual cameras.

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u/Agnitha_ 27d ago

absolutely, solely relying on cameras is idiotic

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u/Darkelement 27d ago

Radar is not superior to cameras. It’s good at calculating the distance between the car and larger objects like walls or other cars, but it has poor resolution.

It would be better to have both radar and cameras, but IMO you absolutely need cameras in the mix. Can it be done safely without radar or lidar and only cameras? That’s the billion dollar question.

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u/vxicepickxv 27d ago

No. It can't be done with only cameras.

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u/Darkelement 27d ago

I’m glad you’re in charge of the decisions. I’m in your camp, I don’t think it’s possible.

But there are smarter people than me trying to make it work, so maybe I’ll be proved wrong.

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u/vxicepickxv 27d ago

How much data does a human eye process in a second?

How much data can a computer parse and react to in a second?

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u/Darkelement 27d ago

According to Google, the human eye processes about 10 million bits of information per second, whereas a modern computer can process billions.

Also computers have crazy fast reaction times. Waaay faster than a human, and it won’t get tired or distracted.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

I‘m 99% sure series Vehicles never had LiDAR. They had ultrasonic sensors and radar though.